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  • #38682
    Roman
    Participant

    Today it was my first FPV experience done with the BabyTri.
    I felt very uncomfortable. Now my question:”Is it better for the beginnig of FPV to fly the Baby without FPV to learn to control (muscle memory) the baby and later to go to FPV, or should I start directly with the goggles?

    Thanks for your help.

    #38686
    biggestRCEfan
    Participant

    If this is your first FPV experience, I would say first get to learn how the copter responds by flying LOS. Especially throttle sensitivity requires getting used to and adjustment of throttle expo. In the beginning it is hard to understand what you are seeing, so if the copter is oversensitive to control inputs it is very uncomfortable.

    Camera angle would also contribute to you problem, as uptilt will cause you to fly faster as you would tend to tilt down so you see the horizon comfortably. Uptilt also makes it harder to know when you are in a hover. So, start with no or little uptilt.

    #38691
    LitterBug
    Participant

    I agree with @biggestRCEfan. I personally started with LOS and then added FPV later after getting comfortable with how everything works. At some point, especially on a new build when you are first testing it out, it is much easier to test LOS than FPV. I ALWAYS test LOS before even adding or enabling the FPV gear on a build.

    Cheers!
    LitterBug

    #38709
    RamonSanchez
    Participant

    Thanks for that. Yes today I flew in LOS and noticed, that it is very hard to fly in Acro mode. But with the stock Settings from David, the horizon Mode has Not enought response and the angle Mode is too much response and acro mode is “wow”to dangerous for me. (This was my second Time in acro Mode).

    Herr is my Plan: First Time I will only fly in Horizon mode (but I will change the PID’s for a Little Bit more response). After a few times i will change to acro Mode. For maybe a few weeks and if I will know what I do, I will change to FPV. And till I can fly in FPV I will Train Evelyn day with a Simulator on my Mac.

    This is a Plan is’nt it?

    Thanks for your help.

    #38711
    biggestRCEfan
    Participant

    I recommend that you don’t touch the PIDs (assuming you have the correct default PIDs from David) yet, but only adjust the rates, which defines how sensitive the copter is to stick movement. Play with rates and expo, get your skills up then go to FPV.

    Tune the rates and expo to make the copter easy to control in across. Forget about angle mode, or program it as a backup mode on a switch to get it under control when loosing orientation.

    Good luck with it!

    #38726
    RamonSanchez
    Participant

    Ah ok, thanks for your advice. So i will try only to change the Rates and Expo to geht more controll.

    This was very helpfull, thank you.

    #38962
    RamonSanchez
    Participant

    Should I change the Expo Settings in my Taranis,or in betaflight?
    I am a Little confused..

    #38966
    LitterBug
    Participant

    You should change it in BetaFlight. Your TX should just feed raw stick positions to the Flight Controller.

    Cheers!
    LitterBug

    #38967
    RamonSanchez
    Participant

    Thx, and a big hug for your fast answer.

    #39028
    Roman
    Participant

    oh man, LOS is soooo uncortable. It’s very hard for me, when I yaw the copter to fly towards me! 🙁 but I´ll try every day and hope I will get more Praxis so fast that I can. But the babytri is so freaking fast. Could anybody send me a beginner setting that I can put in the CLI?

    # dump
    # Triflight 0.7 Beta 2 / RCEXPLORERF3 3.1.7 Jun 4 2017 / 13:39:27 (1698ba5)
    name babytri
    resource BEEPER 1 A00
    resource MOTOR 1 A08
    resource MOTOR 2 B00
    resource MOTOR 3 A04
    resource MOTOR 4 B01
    resource MOTOR 5 NONE
    resource MOTOR 6 NONE
    resource MOTOR 7 NONE
    resource MOTOR 8 NONE
    resource MOTOR 9 NONE
    resource MOTOR 10 NONE
    resource MOTOR 11 NONE
    resource MOTOR 12 NONE
    resource SERVO 1 A07
    resource SERVO 2 NONE
    resource SERVO 3 NONE
    resource SERVO 4 NONE
    resource SERVO 5 NONE
    resource SERVO 6 NONE
    resource SERVO 7 NONE
    resource SERVO 8 NONE
    resource PPM 1 A01
    resource PWM 1 NONE
    resource PWM 2 NONE
    resource PWM 3 NONE
    resource PWM 4 NONE
    resource PWM 5 NONE
    resource PWM 6 NONE
    resource PWM 7 NONE
    resource PWM 8 NONE
    resource SONAR_TRIGGER 1 A06
    resource SONAR_ECHO 1 B01
    resource LED_STRIP 1 B08
    resource SERIAL_TX 1 B06
    resource SERIAL_TX 2 A02
    resource SERIAL_TX 3 B10
    resource SERIAL_TX 4 NONE
    resource SERIAL_TX 5 NONE
    resource SERIAL_TX 6 NONE
    resource SERIAL_TX 7 NONE
    resource SERIAL_TX 8 NONE
    resource SERIAL_TX 9 NONE
    resource SERIAL_TX 10 NONE
    resource SERIAL_TX 11 NONE
    resource SERIAL_TX 12 NONE
    resource SERIAL_RX 1 B07
    resource SERIAL_RX 2 A03
    resource SERIAL_RX 3 B11
    resource SERIAL_RX 4 NONE
    resource SERIAL_RX 5 NONE
    resource SERIAL_RX 6 NONE
    resource SERIAL_RX 7 NONE
    resource SERIAL_RX 8 NONE
    resource SERIAL_RX 9 NONE
    resource SERIAL_RX 10 NONE
    resource SERIAL_RX 11 NONE
    resource SERIAL_RX 12 NONE
    mixer TRI

    mmix reset

    servo 0 1000 2000 1500 90 90 100 -1
    servo 1 1000 2000 1500 90 90 100 -1
    servo 2 1000 2000 1500 90 90 100 -1
    servo 3 1000 2000 1500 90 90 100 -1
    servo 4 1000 2000 1500 90 90 100 -1
    servo 5 1137 1946 1559 40 40 100 -1
    servo 6 1000 2000 1500 90 90 100 -1
    servo 7 1000 2000 1500 90 90 100 -1
    smix reset

    feature -RX_PPM
    feature -VBAT
    feature -INFLIGHT_ACC_CAL
    feature -RX_SERIAL
    feature -MOTOR_STOP
    feature -SERVO_TILT
    feature -SOFTSERIAL
    feature -GPS
    feature -FAILSAFE
    feature -SONAR
    feature -TELEMETRY
    feature -CURRENT_METER
    feature -3D
    feature -RX_PARALLEL_PWM
    feature -RX_MSP
    feature -RSSI_ADC
    feature -LED_STRIP
    feature -DISPLAY
    feature -OSD
    feature -BLACKBOX
    feature -CHANNEL_FORWARDING
    feature -TRANSPONDER
    feature -AIRMODE
    feature -SDCARD
    feature -VTX
    feature -RX_SPI
    feature -SOFTSPI
    feature -ESC_SENSOR
    feature -FEATURE_ANTI_GRAVITY
    feature VBAT
    feature RX_SERIAL
    feature FAILSAFE
    beeper GYRO_CALIBRATED
    beeper RX_LOST
    beeper RX_LOST_LANDING
    beeper DISARMING
    beeper ARMING
    beeper ARMING_GPS_FIX
    beeper BAT_CRIT_LOW
    beeper BAT_LOW
    beeper GPS_STATUS
    beeper RX_SET
    beeper ACC_CALIBRATION
    beeper ACC_CALIBRATION_FAIL
    beeper READY_BEEP
    beeper MULTI_BEEPS
    beeper DISARM_REPEAT
    beeper ARMED
    beeper SYSTEM_INIT
    beeper ON_USB
    map AETR1234
    serial 20 1 115200 57600 0 115200
    serial 0 68 115200 57600 0 115200
    serial 1 0 115200 57600 0 115200
    serial 2 0 115200 57600 0 115200
    led 0 0,0::C:0
    led 1 0,0::C:0
    led 2 0,0::C:0
    led 3 0,0::C:0
    led 4 0,0::C:0
    led 5 0,0::C:0
    led 6 0,0::C:0
    led 7 0,0::C:0
    led 8 0,0::C:0
    led 9 0,0::C:0
    led 10 0,0::C:0
    led 11 0,0::C:0
    led 12 0,0::C:0
    led 13 0,0::C:0
    led 14 0,0::C:0
    led 15 0,0::C:0
    led 16 0,0::C:0
    led 17 0,0::C:0
    led 18 0,0::C:0
    led 19 0,0::C:0
    led 20 0,0::C:0
    led 21 0,0::C:0
    led 22 0,0::C:0
    led 23 0,0::C:0
    led 24 0,0::C:0
    led 25 0,0::C:0
    led 26 0,0::C:0
    led 27 0,0::C:0
    led 28 0,0::C:0
    led 29 0,0::C:0
    led 30 0,0::C:0
    led 31 0,0::C:0
    color 0 0,0,0
    color 1 0,255,255
    color 2 0,0,255
    color 3 30,0,255
    color 4 60,0,255
    color 5 90,0,255
    color 6 120,0,255
    color 7 150,0,255
    color 8 180,0,255
    color 9 210,0,255
    color 10 240,0,255
    color 11 270,0,255
    color 12 300,0,255
    color 13 330,0,255
    color 14 0,0,0
    color 15 0,0,0
    mode_color 0 0 1
    mode_color 0 1 11
    mode_color 0 2 2
    mode_color 0 3 13
    mode_color 0 4 10
    mode_color 0 5 3
    mode_color 1 0 5
    mode_color 1 1 11
    mode_color 1 2 3
    mode_color 1 3 13
    mode_color 1 4 10
    mode_color 1 5 3
    mode_color 2 0 10
    mode_color 2 1 11
    mode_color 2 2 4
    mode_color 2 3 13
    mode_color 2 4 10
    mode_color 2 5 3
    mode_color 3 0 8
    mode_color 3 1 11
    mode_color 3 2 4
    mode_color 3 3 13
    mode_color 3 4 10
    mode_color 3 5 3
    mode_color 4 0 7
    mode_color 4 1 11
    mode_color 4 2 3
    mode_color 4 3 13
    mode_color 4 4 10
    mode_color 4 5 3
    mode_color 5 0 9
    mode_color 5 1 11
    mode_color 5 2 2
    mode_color 5 3 13
    mode_color 5 4 10
    mode_color 5 5 3
    mode_color 6 0 6
    mode_color 6 1 10
    mode_color 6 2 1
    mode_color 6 3 0
    mode_color 6 4 0
    mode_color 6 5 2
    mode_color 6 6 3
    mode_color 6 7 6
    mode_color 6 8 0
    mode_color 6 9 0
    mode_color 6 10 0
    mode_color 7 0 3
    aux 0 0 0 1950 2075
    aux 1 1 2 1300 1700
    aux 2 2 2 1775 2075
    aux 3 13 5 1450 1575
    aux 4 31 3 1900 2100
    aux 5 0 0 900 900
    aux 6 0 0 900 900
    aux 7 0 0 900 900
    aux 8 0 0 900 900
    aux 9 0 0 900 900
    aux 10 0 0 900 900
    aux 11 0 0 900 900
    aux 12 0 0 900 900
    aux 13 0 0 900 900
    aux 14 0 0 900 900
    aux 15 0 0 900 900
    aux 16 0 0 900 900
    aux 17 0 0 900 900
    aux 18 0 0 900 900
    aux 19 0 0 900 900
    adjrange 0 0 0 900 900 0 0
    adjrange 1 0 0 900 900 0 0
    adjrange 2 0 0 900 900 0 0
    adjrange 3 0 0 900 900 0 0
    adjrange 4 0 0 900 900 0 0
    adjrange 5 0 0 900 900 0 0
    adjrange 6 0 0 900 900 0 0
    adjrange 7 0 0 900 900 0 0
    adjrange 8 0 0 900 900 0 0
    adjrange 9 0 0 900 900 0 0
    adjrange 10 0 0 900 900 0 0
    adjrange 11 0 0 900 900 0 0
    adjrange 12 0 0 900 900 0 0
    adjrange 13 0 0 900 900 0 0
    adjrange 14 0 0 900 900 0 0
    rxrange 0 1000 2000
    rxrange 1 1000 2000
    rxrange 2 1000 2000
    rxrange 3 1000 2000
    rxfail 0 a
    rxfail 1 a
    rxfail 2 a
    rxfail 3 a
    rxfail 4 h
    rxfail 5 h
    rxfail 6 h
    rxfail 7 h
    rxfail 8 h
    rxfail 9 h
    rxfail 10 h
    rxfail 11 h
    rxfail 12 h
    rxfail 13 h
    rxfail 14 h
    rxfail 15 h
    rxfail 16 h
    rxfail 17 h
    set task_statistics = ON
    set mid_rc = 1500
    set min_check = 1000
    set max_check = 2000
    set rssi_channel = 0
    set rssi_scale = 30
    set rc_interp = AUTO
    set rc_interp_ch = RP
    set rc_interp_int = 19
    set rssi_invert = OFF
    set input_filtering_mode = OFF
    set fpv_mix_degrees = 10
    set max_aux_channels = 14
    set debug_mode = NONE
    set min_throttle = 1070
    set max_throttle = 2000
    set min_command = 1000
    set digital_idle_percent = 4.500
    set 3d_deadband_low = 1406
    set 3d_deadband_high = 1514
    set 3d_neutral = 1460
    set 3d_deadband_throttle = 50
    set use_unsynced_pwm = ON
    set motor_pwm_protocol = ONESHOT125
    set motor_pwm_rate = 480
    set disarm_kill_switch = OFF
    set gyro_cal_on_first_arm = OFF
    set auto_disarm_delay = 5
    set small_angle = 25
    set fixedwing_althold_dir = 1
    set reboot_character = 82
    set serial_update_rate_hz = 100
    set gps_provider = NMEA
    set gps_sbas_mode = AUTO
    set gps_auto_config = ON
    set gps_auto_baud = OFF
    set gps_wp_radius = 200
    set nav_controls_heading = ON
    set nav_speed_min = 100
    set nav_speed_max = 300
    set nav_slew_rate = 30
    set beeper_inversion = ON
    set beeper_od = OFF
    set serialrx_provider = SBUS
    set sbus_inversion = ON
    set spektrum_sat_bind = 0
    set spektrum_sat_bind_autorst = 1
    set tlm_switch = OFF
    set tlm_inversion = ON
    set sport_halfduplex = ON
    set frsky_default_lat = 0.000
    set frsky_default_long = 0.000
    set frsky_gps_format = 0
    set frsky_unit = IMPERIAL
    set frsky_vfas_precision = 0
    set frsky_vfas_cell_voltage = OFF
    set hott_alarm_int = 5
    set pid_in_tlm = OFF
    set bat_capacity = 0
    set vbat_scale = 111
    set vbat_max_cell_voltage = 42
    set vbat_min_cell_voltage = 34
    set vbat_warning_cell_voltage = 35
    set vbat_hysteresis = 1
    set ibat_scale = 360
    set ibat_offset = 0
    set mwii_ibat_output = OFF
    set current_meter_type = ADC
    set battery_meter_type = ADC
    set bat_detect_thresh = 55
    set use_vbat_alerts = ON
    set use_cbat_alerts = OFF
    set cbat_alert_percent = 10
    set align_gyro = DEFAULT
    set align_acc = DEFAULT
    set align_mag = DEFAULT
    set align_board_roll = 0
    set align_board_pitch = 0
    set align_board_yaw = 0
    set gyro_lpf = OFF
    set gyro_sync_denom = 1
    set gyro_isr_update = OFF
    set gyro_use_32khz = OFF
    set gyro_lowpass_type = PT1
    set gyro_lowpass = 100
    set gyro_notch1_hz = 400
    set gyro_notch1_cut = 300
    set gyro_notch2_hz = 200
    set gyro_notch2_cut = 100
    set moron_threshold = 48
    set imu_dcm_kp = 2500
    set imu_dcm_ki = 0
    set alt_hold_deadband = 40
    set alt_hold_fast_change = ON
    set deadband = 9
    set yaw_deadband = 9
    set thr_corr_value = 0
    set thr_corr_angle = 800
    set yaw_control_direction = 1
    set yaw_motor_direction = 1
    set tri_unarmed_servo = OFF
    set servo_center_pulse = 1500
    set servo_lowpass_hz = 400
    set servo_lowpass = OFF
    set servo_pwm_rate = 300
    set gimbal_mode = NORMAL
    set channel_forwarding_start = 4
    set tri_tail_motor_thrustfactor = 56
    set tri_tail_servo_speed = 355
    set tri_servo_feedback = RSSI
    set tri_motor_acc_yaw_correction = 20
    set tri_motor_acceleration = 0.180
    set tri_yaw_boost = 240
    set tri_dynamic_yaw_maxthrottle = 38
    set airmode_start_throttle = 1350
    set failsafe_delay = 10
    set failsafe_off_delay = 10
    set failsafe_throttle = 1000
    set failsafe_kill_switch = OFF
    set failsafe_throttle_low_delay = 100
    set failsafe_procedure = AUTO-LAND
    set rx_min_usec = 885
    set rx_max_usec = 2115
    set acc_hardware = AUTO
    set acc_lpf_hz = 10
    set accxy_deadband = 40
    set accz_deadband = 40
    set acc_unarmedcal = ON
    set acc_trim_pitch = 0
    set acc_trim_roll = 0
    set baro_tab_size = 21
    set baro_noise_lpf = 0.600
    set baro_cf_vel = 0.985
    set baro_cf_alt = 0.965
    set baro_hardware = NONE
    set mag_hardware = NONE
    set mag_declination = 0
    set pid_process_denom = 2
    set blackbox_rate_num = 1
    set blackbox_rate_denom = 1
    set blackbox_device = SERIAL
    set blackbox_on_motor_test = OFF
    set magzero_x = 0
    set magzero_y = 0
    set magzero_z = 0
    set ledstrip_visual_beeper = OFF
    set displayport_msp_col_adjust = 0
    set displayport_msp_row_adjust = 0
    profile 0

    set gps_pos_p = 15
    set gps_pos_i = 0
    set gps_pos_d = 0
    set gps_posr_p = 34
    set gps_posr_i = 14
    set gps_posr_d = 53
    set gps_nav_p = 25
    set gps_nav_i = 33
    set gps_nav_d = 83
    set pidsum_limit = 0.500
    set pidsum_limit_yaw = 0.500
    set d_lowpass_type = BIQUAD
    set d_lowpass = 100
    set d_notch_hz = 260
    set d_notch_cut = 160
    set vbat_pid_gain = OFF
    set pid_at_min_throttle = ON
    set anti_gravity_thresh = 350
    set anti_gravity_gain = 3.000
    set setpoint_relax_ratio = 100
    set d_setpoint_weight = 100
    set yaw_accel_limit = 10.000
    set accel_limit = 0.000
    set iterm_windup = 50
    set yaw_lowpass = 0
    set p_pitch = 33
    set i_pitch = 22
    set d_pitch = 20
    set p_roll = 39
    set i_roll = 23
    set d_roll = 27
    set p_yaw = 144
    set i_yaw = 30
    set d_yaw = 80
    set p_alt = 50
    set i_alt = 0
    set d_alt = 0
    set p_level = 20
    set i_level = 10
    set d_level = 100
    set p_vel = 120
    set i_vel = 45
    set d_vel = 1
    set level_sensitivity = 55
    set level_limit = 55
    rateprofile 2
    rateprofile 2

    set rc_rate = 44
    set rc_rate_yaw = 35
    set rc_expo = 48
    set rc_yaw_expo = 37
    set thr_mid = 50
    set thr_expo = 14
    set roll_srate = 55
    set pitch_srate = 57
    set yaw_srate = 64
    set tpa_rate = 10
    set tpa_breakpoint = 1650

    #

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