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  • #34514
    GAntonjo
    Moderator

    A quick google reveals that there has been problems related to the DX8 and Orange RX receivers. Problem is that most of the links are very old, and as such I don’t trust them as valid. However, looking at your problem description, I believe the reason for your problems are related to your transmitter/receiver combination.

    Since you have figured out that the servo is working, using it to test the Orange receiver could be a solution. Take the job it is to disconnect the receiver from the NAZE32 Frame and plug the servo to channel 1 of the orange receiver. Power up the receiver with a suitable power supply. Move the sticks on your transmitter and verify which one makes the servo move. Repeat this for channels 2 to 6 on your receiver and you should eventually be able to tell if the receiver is working as expected. Write down the channel order so you can use this later to correctly map sticks to correct inputs of the NAZE32 Frame.

    If you do confirm that the transmitter/receiver combination is working, reconnect the receiver to the NAZE32 frame, making sure ground and signal pins on the receiver is connected to corresponding signal and ground pins on the NAZE32 Frame. Actually, since you can rearrange the channel order in CleanFlight Configurator, you may connect the receivers channel in any order you like to the NAZE32 Frame’s RX inputs.

    #34539
    Flying_Flynn
    Participant

    Okay so here is a pic of the connections.

    #34540
    Flying_Flynn
    Participant

    okay here is a pic

    #34541
    Flying_Flynn
    Participant

    okay, having a wee bit of trouble but here it should be for real.

    #34542
    Flying_Flynn
    Participant

    darn. it keeps saying that it exceeds allowed file size. but just for one picture?

    #34543
    Flying_Flynn
    Participant

    btw does anyone know how the spektrum ar8000 rx works?

    #34544
    Flying_Flynn
    Participant

    okay so i tested the servo and it corrects on the tri. but my rx values still dont work. but here is the cli dump.
    Unknown command, try ‘help’
    # dump

    # version
    # TriFlight 0.4/NAZE 2.1.2 Jan 1 2016 / 15:06:12 (4d856be)
    # dump master

    # mixer
    mixer TRI
    mmix reset
    smix reset

    # feature
    feature -RX_PPM
    feature -VBAT
    feature -INFLIGHT_ACC_CAL
    feature -RX_SERIAL
    feature -MOTOR_STOP
    feature -SERVO_TILT
    feature -SOFTSERIAL
    feature -GPS
    feature -FAILSAFE
    feature -SONAR
    feature -TELEMETRY
    feature -CURRENT_METER
    feature -3D
    feature -RX_PARALLEL_PWM
    feature -RX_MSP
    feature -RSSI_ADC
    feature -LED_STRIP
    feature -DISPLAY
    feature -ONESHOT125
    feature -BLACKBOX
    feature -CHANNEL_FORWARDING
    feature VBAT
    feature MOTOR_STOP
    feature FAILSAFE
    feature RX_PARALLEL_PWM
    feature ONESHOT125

    # map
    map TAER1234

    # serial
    serial 0 1 115200 57600 0 115200
    serial 1 0 115200 57600 0 115200

    # led
    led 0 15,15:ES:IA:0
    led 1 15,8:E:WF:0
    led 2 15,7:E:WF:0
    led 3 15,0:NE:IA:0
    led 4 8,0:N:F:0
    led 5 7,0:N:F:0
    led 6 0,0:NW:IA:0
    led 7 0,7:W:WF:0
    led 8 0,8:W:WF:0
    led 9 0,15:SW:IA:0
    led 10 7,15:S:WF:0
    led 11 8,15:S:WF:0
    led 12 7,7:U:WF:0
    led 13 8,7:U:WF:0
    led 14 7,8:D:WF:0
    led 15 8,8:D:WF:0
    led 16 8,9::R:3
    led 17 9,10::R:3
    led 18 10,11::R:3
    led 19 10,12::R:3
    led 20 9,13::R:3
    led 21 8,14::R:3
    led 22 7,14::R:3
    led 23 6,13::R:3
    led 24 5,12::R:3
    led 25 5,11::R:3
    led 26 6,10::R:3
    led 27 7,9::R:3
    led 28 0,0:::0
    led 29 0,0:::0
    led 30 0,0:::0
    led 31 0,0:::0

    # color
    color 0 0,0,0
    color 1 0,255,255
    color 2 0,0,255
    color 3 30,0,255
    color 4 60,0,255
    color 5 90,0,255
    color 6 120,0,255
    color 7 150,0,255
    color 8 180,0,255
    color 9 210,0,255
    color 10 240,0,255
    color 11 270,0,255
    color 12 300,0,255
    color 13 330,0,255
    color 14 0,0,0
    color 15 0,0,0

    set emf_avoidance = 0
    set mid_rc = 1500
    set min_check = 1100
    set max_check = 1900
    set rssi_channel = 0
    set rssi_scale = 30
    set rssi_ppm_invert = 0
    set input_filtering_mode = 0
    set min_throttle = 1150
    set max_throttle = 1850
    set min_command = 1000
    set servo_center_pulse = 1500
    set 3d_deadband_low = 1406
    set 3d_deadband_high = 1514
    set 3d_neutral = 1460
    set 3d_deadband_throttle = 50
    set motor_pwm_rate = 400
    set servo_pwm_rate = 250
    set enable_fast_pwm = 0
    set retarded_arm = 0
    set disarm_kill_switch = 1
    set auto_disarm_delay = 5
    set small_angle = 25
    set fixedwing_althold_dir = 1
    set reboot_character = 82
    set serialrx_provider = 0
    set spektrum_sat_bind = 0
    set telemetry_switch = 0
    set telemetry_inversion = 0
    set frsky_default_lattitude = 0.000
    set frsky_default_longitude = 0.000
    set frsky_coordinates_format = 0
    set frsky_unit = 0
    set frsky_vfas_precision = 0
    set hott_alarm_sound_interval = 5
    set battery_capacity = 0
    set vbat_scale = 110
    set vbat_max_cell_voltage = 43
    set vbat_min_cell_voltage = 33
    set vbat_warning_cell_voltage = 35
    set current_meter_scale = 400
    set current_meter_offset = 0
    set multiwii_current_meter_output = 0
    set current_meter_type = 1
    set align_gyro = 0
    set align_acc = 0
    set align_mag = 0
    set align_board_roll = 0
    set align_board_pitch = 180
    set align_board_yaw = 0
    set max_angle_inclination = 700
    set moron_threshold = 32
    set imu_dcm_kp = 10000
    set imu_dcm_ki = 0
    set yaw_control_direction = 1
    set pid_at_min_throttle = 1
    set yaw_motor_direction = 1
    set yaw_jump_prevention_limit = 200
    set tri_unarmed_servo = 1
    set servo_lowpass_freq = 400
    set servo_lowpass_enable = 0
    set tri_servo_angle_at_max = 400
    set tri_tail_motor_thrustfactor = 138
    set tri_tail_servo_speed = 300
    set failsafe_delay = 10
    set failsafe_off_delay = 10
    set failsafe_throttle = 1000
    set failsafe_kill_switch = 0
    set failsafe_throttle_low_delay = 100
    set rx_min_usec = 885
    set rx_max_usec = 2115
    set acc_hardware = 0
    set baro_hardware = 0
    set mag_hardware = 0
    set blackbox_rate_num = 1
    set blackbox_rate_denom = 1
    set blackbox_device = 0
    set magzero_x = 0
    set magzero_y = 0
    set magzero_z = 0
    set beeper_off_flags = 0

    # rxfail
    rxfail 0 a
    rxfail 1 a
    rxfail 2 a
    rxfail 3 a
    rxfail 4 h
    rxfail 5 h
    rxfail 6 h
    rxfail 7 h
    rxfail 8 h
    rxfail 9 h
    rxfail 10 h
    rxfail 11 h
    rxfail 12 h
    rxfail 13 h
    rxfail 14 h
    rxfail 15 h
    rxfail 16 h
    rxfail 17 h

    # dump profile

    # profile
    profile 0

    # aux
    aux 0 0 0 900 900
    aux 1 0 0 900 900
    aux 2 0 0 900 900
    aux 3 0 0 900 900
    aux 4 0 0 900 900
    aux 5 0 0 900 900
    aux 6 0 0 900 900
    aux 7 0 0 900 900
    aux 8 0 0 900 900
    aux 9 0 0 900 900
    aux 10 0 0 900 900
    aux 11 0 0 900 900
    aux 12 0 0 900 900
    aux 13 0 0 900 900
    aux 14 0 0 900 900
    aux 15 0 0 900 900
    aux 16 0 0 900 900
    aux 17 0 0 900 900
    aux 18 0 0 900 900
    aux 19 0 0 900 900

    # adjrange
    adjrange 0 0 0 900 900 0 0
    adjrange 1 0 0 900 900 0 0
    adjrange 2 0 0 900 900 0 0
    adjrange 3 0 0 900 900 0 0
    adjrange 4 0 0 900 900 0 0
    adjrange 5 0 0 900 900 0 0
    adjrange 6 0 0 900 900 0 0
    adjrange 7 0 0 900 900 0 0
    adjrange 8 0 0 900 900 0 0
    adjrange 9 0 0 900 900 0 0
    adjrange 10 0 0 900 900 0 0
    adjrange 11 0 0 900 900 0 0

    # rxrange
    rxrange 0 1000 2000
    rxrange 1 1000 2000
    rxrange 2 1000 2000
    rxrange 3 1000 2000

    # servo
    servo 0 1000 2000 1500 90 90 100 -1
    servo 1 1000 2000 1500 90 90 100 -1
    servo 2 1000 2000 1500 90 90 100 -1
    servo 3 1000 2000 1500 90 90 100 -1
    servo 4 1000 2000 1500 90 90 100 -1
    servo 5 1000 2000 1500 90 90 100 -1
    servo 6 1000 2000 1500 90 90 100 -1
    servo 7 1000 2000 1500 90 90 100 -1

    set alt_hold_deadband = 40
    set alt_hold_fast_change = 1
    set deadband = 5
    set yaw_deadband = 5
    set throttle_correction_value = 0
    set throttle_correction_angle = 800
    set default_rate_profile = 0
    set gimbal_mode = 0
    set acc_cut_hz = 15
    set accxy_deadband = 40
    set accz_deadband = 40
    set accz_lpf_cutoff = 5.000
    set acc_unarmedcal = 1
    set acc_trim_pitch = 0
    set acc_trim_roll = 0
    set baro_tab_size = 21
    set baro_noise_lpf = 0.600
    set baro_cf_vel = 0.985
    set baro_cf_alt = 0.965
    set mag_declination = 0
    set pid_controller = LUXFLOAT
    set p_pitch = 40
    set i_pitch = 30
    set d_pitch = 18
    set p_roll = 40
    set i_roll = 30
    set d_roll = 18
    set p_yaw = 95
    set i_yaw = 50
    set d_yaw = 10
    set p_pitchf = 1.400
    set i_pitchf = 0.400
    set d_pitchf = 0.035
    set p_rollf = 1.500
    set i_rollf = 0.400
    set d_rollf = 0.042
    set p_yawf = 2.500
    set i_yawf = 0.800
    set d_yawf = 0.050
    set level_horizon = 3.000
    set level_angle = 5.000
    set sensitivity_horizon = 75
    set p_alt = 50
    set i_alt = 0
    set d_alt = 0
    set p_level = 20
    set i_level = 20
    set d_level = 100
    set p_vel = 120
    set i_vel = 45
    set d_vel = 1
    set dterm_cut_hz = 20
    set gtune_loP_rll = 10
    set gtune_loP_ptch = 10
    set gtune_loP_yw = 10
    set gtune_hiP_rll = 100
    set gtune_hiP_ptch = 100
    set gtune_hiP_yw = 100
    set gtune_pwr = 0
    set gtune_settle_time = 450
    set gtune_average_cycles = 16

    # dump rates

    # rateprofile
    rateprofile 0

    set rc_rate = 100
    set rc_expo = 85
    set rc_yaw_expo = 83
    set thr_mid = 50
    set thr_expo = 0
    set roll_rate = 38
    set pitch_rate = 38
    set yaw_rate = 50
    set tpa_rate = 25
    set tpa_breakpoint = 1500
    set tpa_yaw_rate = 90
    set tpa_yaw_breakpoint = 1500

    #

    #34545
    GAntonjo
    Moderator

    The upload error is not related to number of files, but to the size of each file. You have to resize the picture to a size smaller than 512 KBytes. Depending on the complexity of the picture is would mean less than 1280×720 pixels (or a bit larger with stronger compression). If you don’t know how to do it on your computer, visit http://www.wikihow.com/Resize-a-JPEG for a possible online service you could use to resize the picture.

    I personally use http://www.faststone.org/FSViewerDetail.htm as my tool for viewing and quickly resize my pictures.

    #34547
    GAntonjo
    Moderator

    As for the AR8000 RX, the manual (https://www.spektrumrc.com/ProdInfo/Files/SPMAR8000-Manual.pdf) states pretty well how to bind it to the DX8 transmitter.

    #34550
    Flying_Flynn
    Participant

    okay that was a lot of help. im very sorry for all the trouble i am causing you though. nut i have one yet another question. i have tried some research but i cant find how to use ppm connections with that receiver.

    im sorry ive been causing so much trouble with my problems. but thank you i dont know how ill repay you guys

    #34554
    GAntonjo
    Moderator

    Don’t worry, @flying_flynn. None of us have come to where we are in this hobby knowing everything from the start;-) Best pay back is:

    1. Respect the laws where you fly so no bad news articles “put gasoline” on the “ban drones activists’ bonfire”.
    2. Only fly in areas where you cannot hurt other people or their stuff.
    3. Teach what you learn to other (newcomers) in your area.

    Building and flying your first multicopter can be compared to jumping a parachute. By reading manuals, searching for relevant information, getting help from “professionals” and so on upfront, you learn all the basic needed to fly safely. Learning how to check your gear (multicopter or parachute) before each flight is a crucial skill necessary for safe flights. Sure, buying a RTF DJI Phantom or a RTF packed parachute and taking it for a first flight without checking that all is OK may end well – BUT most likely you will brake something. So, please make sure your tricopter is working correctly before putting propellers on and make sure you fly safely every time you go for a flight;-)

    #34568
    billyd
    Participant

    You can resize photos in Microsoft paint if you are using a pc. I’m certain a mac has a similar canned program available.

    #34570
    GAntonjo
    Moderator

    @flying_flynn: Regarding CPPM on the AR8000 RX, that receiver does not have CPPM output. You might however succeed in connecting its satellite receiver to the NAZE32 frame (ref: https://www.reddit.com/r/Multicopter/comments/2zmqg0/help_with_naze_32_and_spektrum_reciever). If you have it bound to your TX through the AR8000 RX, the process of connecting it to the NAZE32 frame should be pretty straight forward. Only remember that you have to use 3.3V (not 5V !!!) to power it or you let out the “magic blue smoke” that is hidden inside it 😉

    I believe others around here can explain this better than I, because have never used Spectrum. I am using a FrSky Taranis TX with X4R-SB RX.

    #34620
    Flying_Flynn
    Participant

    Would it be easier if I used ppm on my orange rx? It’s a 615 and I think it has ppm capabilities. But I don’t know if it’s the same port on the integrated naze board on the frame.

    #34913
    villalji
    Participant

    Hi flying flynn, I also recommend you to use the satellite receiver that you got with the AR8000 receiver, that’s what I use in all my quads and tris. You can bind it with the transmitter, and to connect it to the board you can just use the key word “satellite” in the starch of this forum (top right of the page) you will find tons of posts that will help you on how to connect the satellite, and how to configure cleanflight to get it to work. It may take you some trial and error, but as Antonjo says be careful with the voltage, make sure you are connecting it to the 3.3 v, but it is totally worth it, you will have 8 channels, super light receiver, and dsmx super solid radio connection. It never failed me.

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