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23 April, 2018 at 15:35 #57605
Kevin_Erik
ModeratorImpossible Tail-Mech arrived!
So far everything looks good but i am waiting for my servos to arrive.
8 May, 2018 at 09:49 #57811Kevin_Erik
ModeratorThe Impossible Tail-Mech has been installed and flown with 6S today. Maxed out around 46 Amps per motor or 91% of full throttle before the limiter kicked in to save the ESC’s.
Edit: BlackBox Log file was too big to upload to the forums so i’ve added it to Google Drive: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1KLJjNwpeJDezMr_f3tjsPdD9Pq38SNEt/view?usp=sharing
Flew it pretty damn hard such that I had screws that had backed out of the motor mounts!
# version
# Triflight on Betaflight 3.2.2 v2 / MATEKF405 (MKF4) 3.2.2 Dec 31 2017 / 15:24:22 (30f68c8) MSP API: 1.36# name
Tri-Fury# resources
resource MOTOR 1 C08
resource MOTOR 3 C09
resource MOTOR 4 NONE
resource MOTOR 5 NONE
resource MOTOR 6 NONE
resource SERVO 1 C06
resource SERIAL_TX 2 NONE
resource SERIAL_TX 11 A02# servo
servo 5 1090 1964 1533 100 -1# feature
feature ANTI_GRAVITY
feature DYNAMIC_FILTER# map
map TAER1234# serial
serial 30 32 115200 57600 0 115200# aux
aux 0 0 0 1700 2100
aux 1 1 2 925 1300
aux 2 2 2 1300 1700
aux 3 28 2 1700 2100
aux 4 37 1 1700 2100# master
set gyro_sync_denom = 2
set gyro_notch1_hz = 0
set gyro_notch2_hz = 0
set dshot_idle_value = 400
set motor_pwm_protocol = DSHOT1200
set failsafe_off_delay = 30
set failsafe_throttle = 1100
set failsafe_kill_switch = ON
set failsafe_procedure = AUTO-LAND
set align_board_roll = 180
set bat_capacity = 1000
set ibata_scale = 179
set servo_center_pulse = 1520
set servo_pwm_rate = 250
set tri_tail_motor_thrustfactor = 73
set tri_tail_servo_speed = 258
set tri_servo_feedback = RSSI
set pid_process_denom = 2# profile
profile 0set dterm_lowpass_type = PT1
set dterm_lowpass = 70
set anti_gravity_gain = 3000
set yaw_lowpass = 40
set p_roll = 45
set p_yaw = 105
set d_yaw = 30# rateprofile
rateprofile 0
set rc_expo = 20
set rc_expo_yaw = 209 May, 2018 at 17:41 #57819Kevin_Erik
ModeratorThese look like nice motors for the Baby: https://www.getfpv.com/tmotor-f60-pro-ii-1750kv.html?
9 May, 2018 at 20:09 #57821LitterBug
ParticipantF40 pro II would be more than enough for the baby tri. Not sure going to F60 would gain much. The F40 ProII are capable of 1800g thrust each. I’ve got Edge R2205 2480kv on one baby, and Cobra 2207 2450kv on the other. Those are more than enough for a baby tri. The Edge are crazy light and responsive. I’ve had to detune it quite a bit to keep it from oscillation on all axis. I’m actually thinking of updating my first Mini tri from F40 2300kv motors to a set of F40 Pro II 1600kv. Have a set of those on a 5″ quad build, and it rips bawls. If I wasn’t already working an F80 mini build, I might consider turning mini 1 into an F60 build, But Really gotta have at least one “tame” build. LOL
LB
9 May, 2018 at 20:13 #57823Kevin_Erik
ModeratorI think I’ve almost all traces of Tail-wag gone! Just had a flight that was excellent with only minor snap back after turns. Even prop wash was muted compared to before. Seams as if the Yaw Terms, specifically the “P” has to be very high for it to be effective. Thus far I’m at 170 from 105 previously.
Note: Will post a video soon.
# version
# Triflight on Betaflight 3.2.2 v2 / MATEKF405 (MKF4) 3.2.2 Dec 31 2017 / 15:24:22 (30f68c8) MSP API: 1.36# resources
resource MOTOR 1 C08
resource MOTOR 3 C09
resource MOTOR 4 NONE
resource MOTOR 5 NONE
resource MOTOR 6 NONE
resource SERVO 1 C06
resource SERIAL_TX 2 NONE
resource SERIAL_TX 11 A02# servo
servo 5 1090 1964 1533 100 -1# feature
feature ANTI_GRAVITY
feature DYNAMIC_FILTER# map
map TAER1234# serial
serial 30 32 115200 57600 0 115200# aux
aux 0 0 0 1700 2100
aux 1 1 2 925 1300
aux 2 2 2 1300 1700
aux 3 28 2 1700 2100
aux 4 37 1 1700 2100# master
set gyro_sync_denom = 2
set gyro_notch1_hz = 0
set gyro_notch2_hz = 0
set dshot_idle_value = 400
set motor_pwm_protocol = DSHOT1200
set failsafe_off_delay = 30
set failsafe_throttle = 1100
set failsafe_kill_switch = ON
set failsafe_procedure = AUTO-LAND
set align_board_roll = 180
set bat_capacity = 1000
set ibata_scale = 179
set servo_center_pulse = 1520
set servo_pwm_rate = 250
set tri_tail_motor_thrustfactor = 81
set tri_tail_servo_speed = 258
set tri_servo_feedback = RSSI
set pid_process_denom = 1# profile
profile 0set dterm_lowpass_type = PT1
set anti_gravity_gain = 4000
set dterm_setpoint_weight = 100
set p_pitch = 43
set i_pitch = 30
set d_pitch = 26
set p_roll = 49
set i_roll = 30
set d_roll = 48
set p_yaw = 170
set d_yaw = 45# rateprofile
rateprofile 0set rc_expo = 20
set rc_expo_yaw = 209 May, 2018 at 20:40 #57825LitterBug
ParticipantLoctite blue on the the motor mounts, And make sure you are engaging the “ny” on your nylock prop nuts. Stuff shouldn’t be falling off. š
Cheers!
LitterBug9 May, 2018 at 23:56 #57826Kevin_Erik
Moderator10 May, 2018 at 02:46 #57828Kevin_Erik
Moderator@LB
I recall being told off the other day for no reason other than replying to you.
10 May, 2018 at 03:03 #57829LitterBug
Participantā<< I must Fly more >>ā
Shutting up and flying ā¦.
10 May, 2018 at 10:14 #57831Kevin_Erik
ModeratorWell as your so fond of context….
I refered to you as a “Sourpus” simply because your taking things too seriously with your grouchy disposition. You should lighten-up when something irritates you rather than lashing out. Beyond that, if you prefer we can simply agree to not reply to each others threads. Sounds childish but hey if that’s what it takes then by all means.
Edit: Here’s an idea… Lets just drop this and both stop acting like retards.
10 May, 2018 at 11:03 #57832lauka
Participant@Kevin_Erik: that starts to look good. You could try increasing the Yaw D term, it is not doing much at the moment.
I will do some flight testing myself soon.
10 May, 2018 at 18:58 #57835Kevin_Erik
Moderator@Lauka Any thoughts on how much āDā to add? Also be aware that my non-standard configuration may not be the same as your Tri.
11 May, 2018 at 15:39 #57843LitterBug
ParticipantI have a better idea. Next time you think my panties are in a bunch, Just tell me to shut up and fly! I obviously haven’t been flying enough.
Cheers!
LitterBugEdit: PS. Got a few packs in last night and already starting to feel better! š
11 May, 2018 at 16:48 #57845Kevin_Erik
ModeratorVideo or it didnt happen!
11 May, 2018 at 18:35 #57848Kevin_Erik
ModeratorToday while adjusting my Telemetry I noticed that my Gyro is not longer detected nor can i calibrate the accelerometer! WTF, i just installed this damn FC last week!
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