[chilternflyer]

Fair point.

I’d like to try your design on a big tricopter because that is really where it would make all of the difference.

Could you publish an STL for the motor mounting that will accommodate a 2217?

[chilternflyer]

Hi Kevin.
Thanks for your help on this.

I’ve been through everything (servo, DMM, BEC, reflashed, BF, resource etc).
It is still not working.
I used resource and resource list to make sure that I had the servo feedback on the correct pins. I’ve tried all pins, all configs and also checked that the servo feedback was still active on each naze pin that I connected it to.

Conclusion:
The naze32 version of triflight 0.7 just doesn’t read the servo feedback input! The input is there, the pins are correctly connected.

I’ve got an SPRACING F3 here so I’ll bench test Triflight 0.7 it using that instead.
It looks like David’s original naze is no longer supported. 🙁

Thanks once again.

[chilternflyer]

Terje:
I’d like to remix your design to make it fit a 210 servo and offset a 2217 and 2213 motors. I’d also like to make it as one solid piece due to the torque and gyro effect of the bigger motor and prop combo.

You kindly published the fusion 360 file for it on thingyverse but it only contained the bodies.
Would you mind sharing the full design file with me?

[chilternflyer]

Stainless steel gears aren’t the answer. We should be using a bigger servo!
I have v2 and a 3.5 big tricopters. They use David’s tail mech with the 210 servo.

So far I have three 210 servos. I have also bought lots of spare gear sets.

I’ve got two remaining servos that have backlash and one that became so bad that I had to scrap it.

The pressure on the small pins (axles) eventually leads to failure of the mounting of the last gear (before the output shaft). It turns the hole into a slot where it fits into the plastic base (that holds the motor and the gear train). Changing the gears doesn’t help in this case!

[chilternflyer]

I’m feeling very unloved.
I’ve asked for help to get my RCexplorer Naze bords working with Triflight 7 beta 3. two or three times on these forums but I haven’t had a single reply.

I have three of David’s Tricopters:- v3 (Naze v5), v3.5 (David’s Naze) and a mini (David’s Naze).
I’ve flashed two of them with Triflight 7 beta 3 so far.
The mini now seems to have a comms issue now so that’s basically a brick.
The v3.5 seems OK provided that you set servo feedback to VIRTUAL. If I try to use servo feedback feature set as RSSI or EXT1 it doesn’t want to arm. I’ve read countless docs and stuff on youtube but no matter where I plug the stupid servo wire in – it won’t arm.
Also: If I set servo feedback to VIRTUAL, it will arm but then tail waggles like mad until there is enough throttle.

Can someone please reply even it’s it just to tell me to sod off.
What am I doing wrong?
Here is a dump of my settings.

# Triflight 0.7 Beta 3 / NAZE 3.1.7 Oct 21 2017 / 13:51:32 (17fa321)
name V35 TRI
resource BEEPER 1 A12
resource MOTOR 1 B06
resource MOTOR 2 B07
resource MOTOR 3 B08
resource MOTOR 4 NONE
resource MOTOR 5 NONE
resource MOTOR 6 NONE
resource MOTOR 7 NONE
resource MOTOR 8 NONE
resource MOTOR 9 NONE
resource MOTOR 10 NONE
resource MOTOR 11 NONE
resource MOTOR 12 NONE
resource SERVO 1 A08
resource SERVO 2 A11
resource SERVO 3 NONE
resource SERVO 4 NONE
resource SERVO 5 NONE
resource SERVO 6 NONE
resource SERVO 7 NONE
resource SERVO 8 NONE
resource PPM 1 A00
resource PWM 1 A00
resource PWM 2 A01
resource PWM 3 A02
resource PWM 4 A03
resource PWM 5 A06
resource PWM 6 A07
resource PWM 7 B00
resource PWM 8 B01
resource SERIAL_TX 1 NONE
resource SERIAL_TX 2 NONE
resource SERIAL_TX 3 NONE
resource SERIAL_TX 4 NONE
resource SERIAL_TX 5 NONE
resource SERIAL_TX 6 NONE
resource SERIAL_TX 7 NONE
resource SERIAL_TX 8 NONE
resource SERIAL_TX 9 NONE
resource SERIAL_TX 10 NONE
resource SERIAL_TX 11 A07
resource SERIAL_TX 12 B01
resource SERIAL_RX 1 NONE
resource SERIAL_RX 2 NONE
resource SERIAL_RX 3 NONE
resource SERIAL_RX 4 NONE
resource SERIAL_RX 5 NONE
resource SERIAL_RX 6 NONE
resource SERIAL_RX 7 NONE
resource SERIAL_RX 8 NONE
resource SERIAL_RX 9 NONE
resource SERIAL_RX 10 NONE
resource SERIAL_RX 11 A06
resource SERIAL_RX 12 B00
mixer TRI

mmix reset

servo 0 1000 2000 1500 90 90 100 -1
servo 1 1000 2000 1500 90 90 100 -1
servo 2 1000 2000 1500 90 90 100 -1
servo 3 1000 2000 1500 90 90 100 -1
servo 4 1000 2000 1500 90 90 100 -1
servo 5 1000 2000 1500 40 40 100 -1
servo 6 1000 2000 1500 90 90 100 -1
servo 7 1000 2000 1500 90 90 100 -1
smix reset

feature -RX_PPM
feature -VBAT
feature -INFLIGHT_ACC_CAL
feature -RX_SERIAL
feature -MOTOR_STOP
feature -SERVO_TILT
feature -SOFTSERIAL
feature -GPS
feature -FAILSAFE
feature -SONAR
feature -TELEMETRY
feature -CURRENT_METER
feature -3D
feature -RX_PARALLEL_PWM
feature -RX_MSP
feature -RSSI_ADC
feature -LED_STRIP
feature -DISPLAY
feature -OSD
feature -BLACKBOX
feature -CHANNEL_FORWARDING
feature -TRANSPONDER
feature -AIRMODE
feature -SDCARD
feature -VTX
feature -RX_SPI
feature -SOFTSPI
feature -ESC_SENSOR
feature -FEATURE_ANTI_GRAVITY
feature RX_PPM
feature VBAT
feature FAILSAFE
feature TELEMETRY
feature AIRMODE
beeper GYRO_CALIBRATED
beeper RX_LOST
beeper RX_LOST_LANDING
beeper DISARMING
beeper ARMING
beeper ARMING_GPS_FIX
beeper BAT_CRIT_LOW
beeper BAT_LOW
beeper GPS_STATUS
beeper RX_SET
beeper ACC_CALIBRATION
beeper ACC_CALIBRATION_FAIL
beeper READY_BEEP
beeper MULTI_BEEPS
beeper DISARM_REPEAT
beeper ARMED
beeper SYSTEM_INIT
beeper ON_USB
map TAER1234
serial 0 1 115200 57600 0 115200
serial 1 4 115200 57600 0 115200
aux 0 2 0 900 2100
aux 1 13 1 1700 2100
aux 2 31 0 1700 2100
aux 3 0 0 900 900
aux 4 0 0 900 900
aux 5 0 0 900 900
aux 6 0 0 900 900
aux 7 0 0 900 900
aux 8 0 0 900 900
aux 9 0 0 900 900
aux 10 0 0 900 900
aux 11 0 0 900 900
aux 12 0 0 900 900
aux 13 0 0 900 900
aux 14 0 0 900 900
aux 15 0 0 900 900
aux 16 0 0 900 900
aux 17 0 0 900 900
aux 18 0 0 900 900
aux 19 0 0 900 900
adjrange 0 0 0 900 900 0 0
adjrange 1 0 0 900 900 0 0
adjrange 2 0 0 900 900 0 0
adjrange 3 0 0 900 900 0 0
adjrange 4 0 0 900 900 0 0
adjrange 5 0 0 900 900 0 0
adjrange 6 0 0 900 900 0 0
adjrange 7 0 0 900 900 0 0
adjrange 8 0 0 900 900 0 0
adjrange 9 0 0 900 900 0 0
adjrange 10 0 0 900 900 0 0
adjrange 11 0 0 900 900 0 0
adjrange 12 0 0 900 900 0 0
adjrange 13 0 0 900 900 0 0
adjrange 14 0 0 900 900 0 0
rxrange 0 1000 2000
rxrange 1 1000 2000
rxrange 2 1000 2000
rxrange 3 1000 2000
rxfail 0 a
rxfail 1 a
rxfail 2 a
rxfail 3 a
rxfail 4 h
rxfail 5 h
rxfail 6 h
rxfail 7 h
rxfail 8 h
rxfail 9 h
rxfail 10 h
rxfail 11 h
rxfail 12 h
rxfail 13 h
rxfail 14 h
rxfail 15 h
rxfail 16 h
rxfail 17 h
set task_statistics = ON
set mid_rc = 1500
set min_check = 1100
set max_check = 1900
set rssi_channel = 0
set rssi_scale = 30
set rc_interp = AUTO
set rc_interp_ch = RP
set rc_interp_int = 19
set rssi_invert = OFF
set input_filtering_mode = OFF
set fpv_mix_degrees = 0
set max_aux_channels = 6
set debug_mode = TRI
set min_throttle = 1070
set max_throttle = 2000
set min_command = 1000
set 3d_deadband_low = 1406
set 3d_deadband_high = 1514
set 3d_neutral = 1460
set 3d_deadband_throttle = 50
set use_unsynced_pwm = OFF
set motor_pwm_protocol = ONESHOT125
set motor_pwm_rate = 480
set disarm_kill_switch = ON
set gyro_cal_on_first_arm = OFF
set auto_disarm_delay = 5
set small_angle = 25
set fixedwing_althold_dir = 1
set reboot_character = 82
set serial_update_rate_hz = 100
set beeper_inversion = ON
set beeper_od = OFF
set serialrx_provider = SPEK1024
set sbus_inversion = ON
set spektrum_sat_bind = 0
set spektrum_sat_bind_autorst = 1
set tlm_switch = OFF
set tlm_inversion = ON
set sport_halfduplex = ON
set frsky_default_lat = 0.000
set frsky_default_long = 0.000
set frsky_gps_format = 0
set frsky_unit = IMPERIAL
set frsky_vfas_precision = 0
set frsky_vfas_cell_voltage = OFF
set hott_alarm_int = 5
set pid_in_tlm = OFF
set bat_capacity = 0
set vbat_scale = 110
set vbat_max_cell_voltage = 43
set vbat_min_cell_voltage = 33
set vbat_warning_cell_voltage = 35
set vbat_hysteresis = 1
set ibat_scale = 400
set ibat_offset = 0
set mwii_ibat_output = OFF
set current_meter_type = ADC
set battery_meter_type = ADC
set bat_detect_thresh = 55
set use_vbat_alerts = ON
set use_cbat_alerts = OFF
set cbat_alert_percent = 10
set align_gyro = DEFAULT
set align_acc = DEFAULT
set align_mag = DEFAULT
set align_board_roll = 0
set align_board_pitch = 180
set align_board_yaw = 0
set gyro_lpf = OFF
set gyro_sync_denom = 8
set gyro_isr_update = OFF
set gyro_use_32khz = OFF
set gyro_lowpass_type = PT1
set gyro_lowpass = 100
set gyro_notch1_hz = 400
set gyro_notch1_cut = 300
set gyro_notch2_hz = 200
set gyro_notch2_cut = 100
set moron_threshold = 48
set imu_dcm_kp = 2500
set imu_dcm_ki = 0
set alt_hold_deadband = 40
set alt_hold_fast_change = ON
set deadband = 9
set yaw_deadband = 9
set thr_corr_value = 0
set thr_corr_angle = 800
set yaw_control_direction = 1
set yaw_motor_direction = 1
set tri_unarmed_servo = OFF
set servo_center_pulse = 1500
set servo_lowpass_hz = 400
set servo_lowpass = OFF
set servo_pwm_rate = 300
set gimbal_mode = NORMAL
set channel_forwarding_start = 4
set tri_tail_motor_thrustfactor = 54
set tri_tail_servo_speed = 300
set tri_servo_feedback = EXT1
set tri_motor_acc_yaw_correction = 0
set tri_motor_acceleration = 0.180
set tri_yaw_boost = 240
set airmode_start_throttle = 1350
set failsafe_delay = 10
set failsafe_off_delay = 10
set failsafe_throttle = 1000
set failsafe_kill_switch = OFF
set failsafe_throttle_low_delay = 100
set failsafe_procedure = DROP
set rx_min_usec = 885
set rx_max_usec = 2115
set acc_hardware = AUTO
set acc_lpf_hz = 10
set accxy_deadband = 40
set accz_deadband = 40
set acc_unarmedcal = ON
set acc_trim_pitch = 0
set acc_trim_roll = 0
set baro_tab_size = 21
set baro_noise_lpf = 0.600
set baro_cf_vel = 0.985
set baro_cf_alt = 0.965
set baro_hardware = NONE
set pid_process_denom = 1
set blackbox_rate_num = 1
set blackbox_rate_denom = 1
set blackbox_device = SERIAL
set blackbox_on_motor_test = OFF
profile 0

set pidsum_limit = 0.500
set pidsum_limit_yaw = 0.500
set d_lowpass_type = BIQUAD
set d_lowpass = 100
set d_notch_hz = 260
set d_notch_cut = 160
set vbat_pid_gain = OFF
set pid_at_min_throttle = ON
set anti_gravity_thresh = 350
set anti_gravity_gain = 3.000
set setpoint_relax_ratio = 100
set d_setpoint_weight = 100
set yaw_accel_limit = 50.000
set accel_limit = 0.000
set iterm_windup = 50
set yaw_lowpass = 0
set p_pitch = 44
set i_pitch = 26
set d_pitch = 25
set p_roll = 47
set i_roll = 30
set d_roll = 25
set p_yaw = 200
set i_yaw = 20
set d_yaw = 33
set p_alt = 50
set i_alt = 0
set d_alt = 0
set p_level = 50
set i_level = 50
set d_level = 100
set p_vel = 55
set i_vel = 55
set d_vel = 75
set level_sensitivity = 55
set level_limit = 55
rateprofile 0
rateprofile 0

set rc_rate = 100
set rc_rate_yaw = 100
set rc_expo = 0
set rc_yaw_expo = 0
set thr_mid = 50
set thr_expo = 0
set roll_srate = 70
set pitch_srate = 70
set yaw_srate = 70
set tpa_rate = 10
set tpa_breakpoint = 1650

[chilternflyer]

RCEXPLORER NAZE F1 – servo feedback not working.

Someone, PLEASE help me with this… I’ve got three of David’s tricopters and nothing is flyable 🙁

I have upgraded triflight from 0.5 to 0.7 rc3 and put servo feedback wires on all three frames but I haven’t got any of them to work.

The one I’m working on at the moment is a v3.5 frame with David’s NAZE F1 board and 2213/920KV T-motors on it (runs on 4s).
There is an output (0.85 to 2.2v) on the servo feedback wire (so I know that the servo mod works!) but it doesn’t matter which RC pin or which tri_servo_feedback parameter I use, it won’t arm and the servo is completely dead.
It will arm if I use set tri_servo_feedback = VIRTUAL but then the servo goes nuts and waggles like mad until the throttle is above idle.
If I try to use tri_servo_feedback = RSSI or tri_servo_feedback = EXT1 it does not arm.

There is a lot of talk about resource mapping but I’ve no idea which pin is which on the naze boards that I’m using. did I miss something??

[chilternflyer]

Hi guys,
Has anyone got a CLI setup for the V3.5 tricopter with an RC explorer Naze using triflight 0.7?
I’ve just put it on my Naze but I’ve got no idea what CLI settings to use with this version.
Everyone seems to be using the F3 and have forgotten about the naze users.:-(

[chilternflyer]

Slightly off topic:- I’ve had to replace one of my DYS 20a’s because it was making a funny squealing noise (sounded like something rubbing inside the motor and didn’t produce the same power as the others. I swapped the motor and it was still doing it).
Anyway, the new motor/ESC combo started off ok but it is now doing the same as the last motor/ESC (on and off).
Has anyone else had a similar problem?
Nothing is getting hot or binding. If it was desyncing it would stop.
Have I got the timing or something wrong?

[chilternflyer]

@Leo
Funny you should say that. I worked out that increasing the rates makes it more scary and prone to flipping out on a turn.
Tomorrow I’m going to try a profile with 30% rates on pitch and roll. most of my other settings are as per the download of the CLI dump in the setup page.
Thanks for doing the setup guide. It was very helpful 🙂
P.S. I’m only on 3S at the moment.

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[chilternflyer]

Hi guys.
I’ve had my dozen flights with Triflight (0.3) and it is awesome! (well done Lauka ;-)) I just love the way it turns.
However I have a slight problem using the Luxfloat PID controller.

I’ve never got on with Luxfloat because I fly in angle mode (I’m too scared of flipping it at low level) and Luxfloat is pants in angle mode (huge amount of latency on the sticks).

So now I find that I’m having to learn to fly in horizon mode and it scares the *** of me. I’ve got it tuned so that the auto-level kicks in OK so I shouldn’t crash but the scary part is that I keep tipping it over.

So here are my questions:-
(1) Is there a way of limiting the max angle? (E.G. 60 degrees) in horizon mode. I’ve tried altering the horizon transition (LEVEL D term) to 100 but it will still do rolls and flips.
(2) Plan B: What do you have change in Luxfloat to get it to respond quicker in angle mode? (The latency is so high that it’s like flying a big fixed wing!) Other (MWC) based PID controllers work fine in angle mode so what’s with Luxfloat?

[chilternflyer]

Hi rue,
That’s interesting. How did you do that?
I can’t find anything on their website other than an email address for ‘sales’.

[chilternflyer]

Jarno:-Yep. I found exactly the same information that you did. I can’t find anyone who sells the gear set 🙁

HSamuels: I haven’t taken the servo apart yet but I’m sure that it is the final output gear. The servo is still working but it has a huge amount of backlash near the centre. I can’t use it because everything waggles around now.

We need David’s help on this one!!

[chilternflyer]

Wow! That can’t be right?
I’ve also got the sunnysky 2216/11 motors on 10*4.5 Gemfan Nylon/Carbon props.
I fly on 3S 4000mah. I got 18 minutes out of it the other day.
Mine weighs 1150G RTF (with a go pro and the battery pack).

Have you over propped it?

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