Chat log from 8/1 -12

Another excellent chat session is now over. A big thank you to all that showed up! This chat client seemed to hold up much better than the old one.
I can’t believe how many people turned up. The chat seems to be quite popular. Should I have them more frequent? If so leave a comment and let me know.

For those of you that missed the chat but still want to know what was discussed, here is the entire chat log:

-:Klonas:- Hi David
-:RCExplorer:- Hi!
-:TriFreak:- Hi Guys!
-:Klonas:- Hi
-:RCExplorer:- Hey!
-:Vindfrisk:- hello
-:West:- Hey guys
-:RCExplorer:- Lets hope this chat client holds up πŸ˜€
-:TriFreak:- Nice chat David, ty πŸ™‚
-:bbmagic:- hello everyone
-:West:- true that
-:Vindfrisk:- Looks promising
-:RCExplorer:- Happy new years btw guys
-:West:- david ru ready for q’s
-:msmb:- hi eveyone!
-:cncgordon:- Hello everyone
-:anas:- hey guys
-:RCExplorer:- Sure fire away
-:Trinom:- hi guys
-:RCExplorer:- Wow lot’s of people πŸ™‚
-:anas:- wow so many joining πŸ™‚
-:avzaid:- Hello
-:AZPilot:- Whats up everyone?
-:interspace:- Hello!
-:anas:- whats up Dave
-:RCExplorer:- Hi Anas!
-:cncgordon:- Good evening. Just let me say your videos are awesome.
-:Klonas:- Anas? From flitetest πŸ˜€
-:West:- Skew planar and cloverleaf…r they good for 2.4ghz range?
-:RCExplorer:- Thanks cncgordon
-:anas:- yes klonas πŸ˜€
-:Klonas:- πŸ™‚
-:anas:- πŸ™‚
-:RCExplorer:- west: yes
-:interspace:- You think Y6 will be better setup for FPV than tricopter?
-:Vindfrisk:- Both the ESCs and Battery for your Tricopter 2.5 is on backorder from Hobbyking, what would you recommend buying instead?
-:avzaid:- Hi Dave
-:avzaid:- question please
-:TriFreak:- Hmm.. so its time for questions! Is it possible to use KK-board for camera stabilizier in tricopter? So that wo servos would be connecter to KK and used for stabilization
-:RCExplorer:- @intespace: nope πŸ˜€
-:anas:- Hey dave, have you had problems using Propsavers because of the torque in quick throttle corrections???
-:avzaid:- regarding the RC system that you are using is it 2.4G or is it something else
-:bbmagic:- David if a cloverleaf is made incorrectly can it damage a Tx? Is there a way to check it before use?
-:Klonas:- Is the mini tricopter less stable than a big one? And does making bigger and bigger increase stability?
-:RCExplorer:- @Vindfrisk: Ooo good question, anything similar in KV and size for the motor and any plush ESC πŸ™‚
-:anas:- @TriFreak: I donΒ΄t think so because the Gyros are not supposed to work like accelerometers. You should go for a multiwii with horizontal stabilisation. That works
-:RCExplorer:- TriFreak: Yes it’s possible if you use a dedicated KK board for the camera gimbal
-:Guest:- Hello, i’m starting building tricopter soon and where can i get the latest kkboards latest firmware?
-:West:- TY I also noticed the calculators u have do not give the same numbers, ie monopole for 1/4 wave = x and cloverleaf/skewer = not the same …is this intentional?
-:anas:- @Vindrisk: I use 1000kv set up
-:RCExplorer:- Anas: Not really, however I do use collets now adays since they’re easier to balance
-:Vindfrisk:- okok
-:RCExplorer:- avzaid: I use the Aurora 9 with stock 2.4ghz module
-:bob:- hello. i tried the kk board u recommanded on ur tricopter v2.5, i got a small problem now. the servo kept glitching.
-:anas:- thanks Dave. I did the mistake to order 3,17 collets for a 3,0 shaft…. πŸ™ now the propsavers arrive tomorrow
-:jrooth:- RCExplorer: are you still flying with OpenLRS too? working fine?
-:interspace:- David you still use DT750 motors. Do you try something else?
-:anas:- @bob: is it glitching in mid air flight as well?!
-:Trinom:- I’ve built tricopter v2.5, you can see it here – https://picasaweb.google.com/116504312330534460153/TricopterFotkyStavby – but I have some initial issues. I tried to use latest 2.5 firmware and I’m not able to set gains correctly. Does anyone have similar problem?
-:bob:- yup
-:RCExplorer:- bbmagic: yes you can damage it, but the chances are minimal. Just feel and check you solder joints and you should be fine
-:avzaid:- but I see a long antenna for your Rx?
-:avzaid:- 2.4G antenna is small
-:anas:- I have that with mine as well but as soon as I take off it is gone
-:Vindfrisk:- What radio would you recommend for a beginner? Im planning on flying multikopters and maybe some airplanes. This will be my first radio. I have been looking at the Hitec Optic 6 Sport, is that a good choice?
-:RCExplorer:- Guest: on www.kkmulticopter.com
-:bob:- really? what radio do u use?
-:msmb:- iΒ΄m going to build my frist quadrocopter and want to know wich ecsΒ΄s and motors you would recommend (they shouldnt be too expensive)
-:RCExplorer:- bob: Glitching how?
-:Klonas:- @Vindfrisk Turnigy9x is a good one…
-:bob:- whenever i disarm the board, it starts to glitch
-:West:- David, I also noticed the calculators u have do not give the same numbers, ie monopole for 1/4 wave = x and cloverleaf/skewer = not the same …is this intentional?
-:RCExplorer:- jrooth, yes sometimes I fly the OpenLRS, haven’t had any troubble with it πŸ™‚
-:RCExplorer:- Interspace: I try new motors all the time πŸ˜€ But the DT750 are a good choise still. However I’ve got some fenomenal performance from tiger motors πŸ™‚
-:anas:- this is soooo coool πŸ˜€
-:anas:- David I have a little problem with my Tricopter
-:Klonas:- Is the mini tricopter less stable than a big one? And does making bigger and bigger increase stability?
-:jrooth:- RCExplorer: for long distance? with booster? I am just trying out one for a long distance test. works pretty nice
-:bob:- if i control it without the kkboard, aka directly controled by the radio, the servo works fine again. then i changed to other servos, analog or digital, both glitched
-:bbmagic:- @vindfrisk – the hitec Optic 6 is a good radio….. the turnigy 9x might be a better value however.
-:RCExplorer:- Trinsom: 2.5 firmware? 1.6 is the latest KK software?
-:RCExplorer:- I use 1.3GHz for the video
-:Trinom:- yes, v2.5 from kkmulticopter.kr
-:Vindfrisk:- @bbmagic @Klonas have read you have to flash Turnigy9x to make it work properly.. true?
-:anas:- I use 2,5 as well. if you go on KK multicopter flash software and choose HK KK V2 board and Tricopter you can choose 2,5
-:Guest:- What version of aurora’s firmware you use? I’ve tried to download the 1.08 from hitec USA’s website, and virus went in my computer with firmware file.
-:avzaid:- Dave: the reason I am asking is because 2.4G antenna is usually small, but the antenna that I see in your videos is a long antenna for your Rx?
-:RCExplorer:- Cindfrisk: THe Hitec optic 6 is a excellent choise. The Hitec 2.4 system is excellent and the radio is nice for the price
-:RCExplorer:- Bob, wierd? When you dissarm it? how bad is it?
-:bbmagic:- @ vindfrisk – nah the stock firmware will work fine but it is a little funky in layout. There are others that might make it easier to program for you.
-:Simon:- Hi David, I am buliding an X quad after having great success with a tricopter (your V1 design), I’m using the KK board but having reflashed the firmware to V2.5 KKMulticopter.kr I find that the throtle control isn’t as smooth as direct from the RX, e.g no soft start
-:RCExplorer:- West: Yes it’s itentionall πŸ™‚
-:Klonas:- @Vindfrisk If you buy it from hobbyking i think its good out of the box… Also other firmwares let you have more models
-:gkowen:- I think I chat as good as I fly- I can’t keep up
-:West:- Thank you sir!
-:anas:- haha same for me gwoken
-:RCExplorer:- Anas: What problem do you have?
-:bob:- eh, very bad. it affected the flight a bit.
-:RCExplorer:- Klonas: Yes generally a bigger Tri will be more stable
-:Vindfrisk:- Where do we buy Fatshark equipment in Sweden, are there other glasses for FPV than Fatshark?
-:anas:- When I take off with my Tri I can keep it in air but whenever with my last flight there are random twitches in control
-:anas:- mostly it Tri suddenly dips to the left
-:bbmagic:- @gkowen thats just Classic!!
-:RCExplorer:- Jrooth: Yepp got the 7W booster and a bowtie antenna for really long range πŸ˜€ It’s really nice
-:anas:- Then my receiver wonΒ΄t disarm and I have a permanent loss in connection…
-:RCExplorer:- Guest: I use the 1.08 firmware, I’m on a mac however so I don’t notice that πŸ˜€
-:anas:- I canΒ΄t really arm or disarm always, so I think it is the tx or rx. I have tried several receivers but always the same thing.
-:Trinom:- how legal is FPV flying in sweden? Czech law doesn’t allow it at all
-:RCExplorer:- Avzaid: The antenna is just elevated. The atcive element is just 25.4mm long πŸ™‚
-:jrooth:- RCExplorer: cool. glad to hear that works will. But does the TX warn for lost packages when you have a booster?
-:anas:- then when I slightly dip a little on the ground I often loose full connection and even have to rebind: I use a Spektrum DX6i with orange rx and several spektrum receivers….
-:noxnflame:- Hey guys! This is a cool thing to do david I really like the live chat!
-:West:- Davd what kind of range should I expect using 2.4ghz 200mw with cloverleaf TX and skewer RX?
-:jrooth:- Trinon: allowed if you can have visual contract. and less than X kg (think 3kg)
-:RCExplorer:- Simon: That’s intentinnal, the KK board gives gives a higer output signal so that your throttle stick has more resolution where it matters, in flight πŸ˜€
-:bob:- hey anas, it is quite similar as mine.
-:RCExplorer:- gkowen: lol πŸ˜€
-:Vindfrisk:- what does mode 1 and mode 2 refer to on a radio?
-:noxnflame:- Does anyone know if patch antennas work better when they are closer to the ground?
-:RCExplorer:- Bob: Is it twiching when you armed the board as well?
-:bbmagic:- @anas – it must not be the recv. Could there be a power interuption?
-:avzaid:- IC, have you ever faced a problem between 2.4G and 1.3G Video interference and causing the Tricopter to stop in the air, I always had this problem even though the distance between the Video Tx and RC Rx is almost 20cm, what do you suggest to do ?
-:jrooth:- Vindfrisk: throttle on left (2) or right (1) stick,. you want mode 2
-:bob:- and the speed of the servo coming back to the centre is extremely slow.
-:jrooth:- Vindfrisk: if you live in sweden
-:bob:- when i arm it, it sit still
-:Exyator:- Just came back from flying my tricopter with a hero2 for the first time!!!
-:RCExplorer:- Vindfrisk: www.RCFlight.se
-:scraighamilton:- @Rcexplorer, Are you using the GoPro as your main FPV camera on your Tricopter? If so, do you notice any latincy in the video? Keep up the good work!
-:anas:- @bbmagic: IΒ΄ll have a loot at my wirings
-:RCExplorer:- Trinom: The laws are OK in sweden. It’s a greay area at the moment πŸ˜€
-:anas:- congrats Exyatpr
-:interspace:- David choose another color of font plz, it’s hard to read chat
-:Exyator:- thx
-:bbmagic:- @vindfrosk – which sticks control which functions on mode 2, common in the
-:Trinom:- no, FPV flying isn’t allowed here. You must have a visual contact which means you cannot use goggles. Of course, there are many people flying fpv without problems, but I just wanted to know if sweden is different
-:Trinom:- as I see, it is
-:RCExplorer:- West: If the antennas awe well made you should get 2km or so at least
-:Bruno:- @ RCExplorer, Hi just want to say you are doing a underfull job, really got me going on a tricopter, all possible because of your tutorials, they are great! Congratz
-:anas:- @Bruno and RC explorer! Same from me. You got me started πŸ™‚
-:RCExplorer:- noxnflame: Yes they do. They are ground dependent and work much better close to the ground πŸ™‚
-:bob:- disarm: glitch
-:West:- ty bra
-:bob:- arm: sit still
-:ngaspalov:- Hi David. I have never build any of the RCs but I would like to know about how much it would cost to constract one in terms of dolars
-:Vindfrisk:- thanks so far for all good help. Turnigy 9X or Futaba 6ex?
-:jrooth:- RCExplorer: btw – where did you get the 433 MHz bowtie antenna?
-:jrooth:- Vindfrisk: Futaba 7C πŸ™‚
-:RCExplorer:- Avazid: What 1.3GHz transmitter and what 2.4 GHZ system are you using?
-:bob:- during the flight: glitch and could crash any time.
-:Exyator:- @RCExplorer when are you going to make a new video?
-:Vindfrisk:- jrooth i dont have that option
-:bbmagic:- Yeah David you got me back into this wonderful hobby after many years. I just loved the FPV concept and the videos you made. I’m getting there the tri is built and flys great and now I’m making my first steps into FPV. THANKS
-:jrooth:- Vindfrisk: looks like the Turnigy 9X has crap reviews on hobbyking. but I also heard it is ok. do not know. sorry
-:RCExplorer:- Thans Bruno πŸ˜€
-:West:- David I have made the bow tie as well…what can u say about them for longer range?
-:Guest:- How much weight can tricopter 2.5 carry?
-:Simon:- David have you tried different freqencies for FPV transmission, here in the UK we are limited to low output and I wondered what would be the best to use 5.8 – 2.4 or 900mhz
-:Exyator:- @RCExplorer I bet it’s gonna be awesome πŸ™‚
-:Trinom:- 900 MHz is used for mobile phones
-:anas:- how long is this chat going to be open!?
-:Klonas:- David, was flying that Y6copter with a plane attacked to it fun ? πŸ˜€
-:RCExplorer:- ngaspalov: Depends on what you want to fly πŸ™‚ I would recommend a RTF Bixler. It’s about 150 bux ready to go I belive
-:bbmagic:- @ klonas – where did you see that….. I missed it
-:RCExplorer:- jrooth: Built it my self πŸ˜‰
-:anas:- Guest: depending on motors. Mine should be able to carry at least 1 kg if not more
-:Klonas:- @bbmagic Flitetest forums πŸ™‚
-:Bruno:- @RCExplorer, dont need to thank me, really. I see you have many “costumers” just gonna sit here and read, I bet many of them will ask you the same questions I have πŸ™‚
-:RCExplorer:- Bob: Sounds really bad. What board are you using? What firmware?
-:avzaid:- my 2.4G Rx is JR and my 1.3G Tx is 800mW from BEVRC.com http://www.bevrc.com/bev-13g-800mw-p-52.html
-:Exyator:- I’ve flown a tricopter with DT750’s up to 1400 grams…
-:RCExplorer:- Exyator: Soon my friend πŸ™‚
-:Exyator:- But flight time are shoooort
-:Guest:- i mean with the DT750 motors
-:MichalSK:- Hi
-:anas:- hi
-:t:- David, Do you think you are going to try the Y6 copter lifting a plane idea again? Maybe attaching the plane to the Y6 instead of string
-:RCExplorer:- jrooth: The 9X is great for the price, however I would go with the Optic 6 if you can afford it
-:bob:- @RCExplorer: KK PLUS 5.5E + LCD MODULE PACKAGE
-:bbmagic:- David – Thanks for getting the new chat….. seems to be holding up really well!
-:Klonas:- http://www.flickr.com/photos/10930114@N08/6620972645/in/photostream
-:RCExplorer:- West: I think it’s an excellent antenna. Nice for FPV due to the side lobes πŸ™‚
-:Klonas:- Is this filled with helium?
-:bob:- @RCExplorer: many people online have got this prob.
-:Vindfrisk:- @RCExplorer, did you mean Optic 6 or Optic 6 Sport?
-:West:- Range?
-:Klonas:- http://www.flickr.com/photos/10930114@N08/6620972645/in/photostream Is this filled with Helium?
-:jrooth:- RCExplorer: I knew you were going to saw that… damnit! back to the workshop. see you in 6 months – now with a new antenna
-:RCExplorer:- Anas: At least 40 minutes more, probably a bit more πŸ™‚
-:West:- The tie goes to RX side and what would be best on the TX side?
-:anas:- what 40 minutes?!
-:Exyator:- @klonas that thing looks coool!
-:Klonas:- I keep getting diconnected…
-:anas:- ah okay πŸ˜€
-:Exyator:- @anas you asked how long the chat is gonna be open
-:Klonas:- Seems like that happened to bruno too
-:jcansdale:- @RCExplorer: I’m interested to know what your preferred FPV goggles are. Have you had a chance to try the Fatshark Dominator?
-:anas:- yeah I forgot my own question while reading all the others… stupid me
-:anas:- good que jcansdale
-:Bruno:- yes it did
-:RCExplorer:- avzaid: Yeah the JR does not like interferance. 800mW seems a bit much. I use a 300mW and get plenty of range. Have you tried a lowpass filter on the video TX?
-:jrooth:- anybody have a good advise on how not to get fog in the Fatsharks during wintertime?
-:arch001:- g’day guys!
-:West:- Yes use anti fog spray at sports outlet
-:scraighamilton:- @RCExplorer: Are you using the GoPro as your main FPV camera on your Tricopter? If so, do you notice any latincy in the video?
-:RCExplorer:- Bob: Do you know what firmare it has?
-:bob:- there is always a big gap between my nose and the goggle. so i fly under -20 celcius and there is no prob.
-:Guest:- how cold weather you have used aurora 9 without its LCD screen tilted
-:RCExplorer:- jrooth: It’s not that hard to build πŸ˜‰
-:RCExplorer:- Klonas: Yes it’s filled with helium πŸ™‚
-:bob:- TricopterControllerV1.6
-:avzaid:- You mean something like that, http://www.bevrc.com/bev-low-pass-filter-lpf1200lpf1400-p-257.html
-:jrooth:- RCExplorer: so what distance do you get with the 7W booster?
-:Klonas:- Awesome
-:comster:- RCExplorer, thanks for your wonderful videos and very helpful guides. Recently built my tricopter and happy with it. Next step is some video gear.
-:RCExplorer:- jcansdale: I like the fatshark RV920 (i think that’s the name :D) I didn’t like the Dominators. Didn’t fit my head and the screen was too small :/
-:Bruno:- @ RCExplorer: Are there any guides on how to make a Patch antena? On my HK KK board I use the 1.6 tricopter version, do you recommend the 2.5???
-:arch001:- David, I have to tell you that I think the 2.5 tricopter yaw solution looks brilliant. Can’t wait to try it.
-:RCExplorer:- jrooth: Keep the googles on your head while setting up so they get warmed up before the flight. Just have them on your forhead, works for me.
-:josemiguel:- hi
-:bob:- http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=endscreen&v=FpIUSUdXsdA
-:Klonas:- @anas About how much does a tricopter cost?
-:bob:- mine is quite similar. but worse
-:Klonas:- I might want to build myself one someday
-:michael:- First tricopter question. What escs can I use with a high update rate needed for a tri? 4cell 25-30A. Thank you.
-:RCExplorer:- scraighamilton: Yes I use the GoPro as my main camera. I don’t notice any latency in 60FPS mode but in 30FPS its noticable but you get used to it within a minute of flying
-:bob:- the servo comes back to the centre very slow. and sometimes it doesn’t centre. it’s driven me crazy already.
-:bbmagic:- @michael – the HK plush series or any of the Hobby Wing clones should work fine up to 400 hz
-:RCExplorer:- Guest: I’ve used the aurora in -20C or so. Works as well as ever πŸ™‚
-:scraighamilton:- Thank you David.
-:Trinom:- I’ve build it few days ago and it cost me about 300$ excluding Tx&Rx
-:josemiguel:- i crashed my 2.5v tricopter yesterday was just about to do a fast takeoff and when i put full throttle something weird sounded and lost control
-:jcansdale:- @RCExplorer: Thanks. Do you use an on screen display with the fatshark RV920? Can you read text at the edges okay?
-:anas:- @bob: I think it is your mount. It looks unstable but I am not sure whether I can say that from just the look. that amplifies the reasonably small jittering.
-:michael:- Thank you. I saw the plush referenced on this website and was my plan so far.
-:anas:- In flight you shouldnΒ΄t feel that actually
-:West:- Sorry David for repeating…I got lost perhaps. The tie goes to RX side and what would be best on the TX side?
-:anas:- At least thats what I think
-:RCExplorer:- bob: Hmm, I don’t really know what’s causing the glitch. I never had it and I’ve build 30 or so tricopters :/
-:michael:- Wait. HK plush. Do you mean the turnigy plush series?
-:RCExplorer:- aczaid: Yes that’s what I mean πŸ™‚ Try it, works really well
-:bbmagic:- @ michael – yes the turnigy series
-:RCExplorer:- jrooth: Furthest distance I’ve tried it at is 40km, worked like a charm πŸ˜‰
-:Trinom:- I think the glitch is servo problem, not the KKboard or anything else’s
-:RCExplorer:- Comster: Awesome any pics?
-:RCExplorer:- Arch001! Good to see you my friend πŸ™‚
-:bob:- @RCExplorer, did u also use the same firmware as mine? maybe i’ll just change back to the hk kk board.
-:avzaid:- what about the RC Rx, any suggestions to make it more reliable, for example shall I change the Rx from 6ch to 7ch with satellite module or shall I try the 433MHz RC system ?
-:jrooth:- RCExplorer: you got video to work 40 km?!
-:RCExplorer:- michael: I recommend the Turnigy Plush.
-:Trinom:- David, did you try that 2.5 firmware, or not? Or somebody else? Is it better or worse than 1.6?
-:RCExplorer:- josemiguel: What timing setting do you have on the ECS?
-:arch001:- RcExplorer: Same here, I’ve really enjoyed your blog lately
-:anas:- @Trinom I tried that 2,5 firmware. Works good in air but I didnΒ΄t use 1,5 before so donΒ΄t really have a reference point
-:tomeparker:- Hello everyone
-:Trinom:- anas, and did you have similar problems with gyro gain?
-:michael:- Does anyone have experience with the opensurprise.com frame?
-:RCExplorer:- jcansdale: nope I don’t use an OSD at the moment. However I have in the past and the dominators are a lot easier to read the text in but I rather have a good sized screan to fly from πŸ™‚
-:michael:- http://www.opensurprise.com/y3-y6-tricopter-carbon-fiber-airframe-p-124.html
-:tomeparker:- Just wondering what radio band you used in the UK when you were shooting the fireworks?
-:Bruno:- @avzaid : Do you have a link on the “satellite module” you are talking about???
-:jogranv:- hello
-:RCExplorer:- West: I used the turnstile on the RX
-:te:- Maybe someone has mentioned it already, but are you planning to release any video about your adventure in the UK i.e. the fireworks?
-:arch001:- RCExplorer: How is the LOGO-Comeptition going? How many alternatives have you received?
-:anas:- @Trinom: no actually now. It has all been working ok. I only couldnΒ΄t reverse the direction of the gyro compensation for my yaw so I used M5 port for my servo
-:rfnoise:- Hey everyone! I just put together a quad and flashed my KK board with the X 4.7 FW, does anyone increase the ROLL(I) pot or is that to be left at 0% ? It flies ok now with 30% 0% 50%
-:bbmagic:- Hey there Tricopflyer
-:RCExplorer:- Bob, yes I used the tricopter KK V1.6 firmare
-:Klonas:- Dave are you going to challenge Josh for a Slap bet again? πŸ˜€
-:Trinom:- yes, v2.5 doesn’t have reverse feature. It has M5 output
-:TriCopFlyer:- hi everyone
-:rfnoise:- Hmm, PITCH πŸ™‚
-:Halford:- Hi pilots
-:arch001:- Hello
-:RCExplorer:- avzaid: Though question. The 433Mhz system is not going to be as affected by the 1.3 but it’s expensive too
-:RCExplorer:- Trinom: I use the 1.6. Love it
-:West:- ” I used the turnstile on the RX”…what is this, the spiral looking one? Is
-:anas:- I think IΒ΄ll give 1,6 a try then
-:West:- I thought the bow tie goes to RX side
-:RCExplorer:- te: Not at this point. I’m not allowed to post any of the footage.
-:Trinom:- anas, look here – http://www.kkmulticopter.kr/multicopter/images/blue_tri.jpg
-:jogranv:- Is it someone here who would sell me some cloverleaf antennas for my 2.4ghz video system?
-:RCExplorer:- rfnoise: That’s fine. You can fly it like that if you like it πŸ™‚
-:Trinom:- OK, I’ll try 1.6 too
-:avzaid:- what about a 2.4G Rx with satellite, will this be better ? like this one for example http://www.wiredrc.com.au/shop/Receivers/JR-RD721-2-4GHz-7-Ch-DSM2-Rx/prod_649.html
-:anas:- exactly that is what I did. I didnΒ΄t know that at the start so it drove me crazy
-:Bruno:- Does anyone knows how to make a patch antena?
-:bbmagic:- @ jogranv – try videoaerialsystems.com
-:Trinom:- same to me. then I remembered that picture
-:jogranv:- thanks
-:West:- are u saying the bow goes to TX side? Its not directional? I built mine with the ground plane plate of 110cmx 110cm
-:RCExplorer:- Pehw it’s hard to keep up πŸ™‚
-:anas:- yes I do Bruno. IΒ΄ll just look for a link
-:RCExplorer:- Lots of people here today
-:Bruno:- ok
-:anas:- wit a tutorial
-:Bruno:- thanks ana
-:Bruno:- πŸ˜‰
-:West:- You r doin it bra!
-:anas:- look here bruno. the video shows that quite well
-:anas:- http://flitetest.com/forum/showthread.php?1201-Clover-Leaf-Antenna-Build-for-5-8Ghz-or-any-other-frequency&p=13022#post13022
-:RCExplorer:- West: Yes the bow tie on the TX on the ground πŸ™‚
-:RCExplorer:- Thanks west πŸ˜‰
-:jrooth:- Does anybody use low pass filters for video link? does it really make any difference?
-:Klonas:- Good night everyone.
-:anas:- night night
-:RCExplorer:- Good night!
-:RCExplorer:- Thanks for stoppin by πŸ™‚
-:West:- ? on the groud literal or the plate
-:RCExplorer:- Jrooth: I do. It works well
-:RCExplorer:- At least for me
-:bbmagic:- @jrooth – it helps the video from stomping on the RC link. Use it if you need it!
-:Fabio:- Hi David and everyone
-:anas:- @David: What do you think my twitching could come from?
-:luilly3d:- Hi everybody
-:arch001:- jrooth: I was getting nasty dropouts on 2.4 & 1.3 before I got a lowpassfilter.
-:RCExplorer:- West: the 433 RC transmitter is on the ground at all times when I fly at least πŸ˜€
-:Bruno:- Anas, thank you, but thats a omniderectional antenna, I mean a Directional antena, do you understand?? But thank you so much anyway
-:rfnoise:- Take care all and nice of you RCExplorer to host a chat again! Good to see that you are back in business and Ill hope to meet you on a FPV meeting soon! πŸ™‚
-:RCExplorer:- luilly3d! Good too see you! πŸ™‚
-:anas:- okay,
-:West:- I’m confused…bowtie is a RX antenna correct?
-:tomeparker:- How do you decide on what low pass filter to get for your system?
-:jogranv:- what is the total cost for the tricopter v2.5
-:RCExplorer:- rfnoise: Coming to Arenan i SkΓΆvde 3:e mars?
-:West:- We r talking about video right…not control
-:Bruno:- do you know how to? :p
-:bbmagic:- @ tomeparker – in the p51 video it looks like he is useing one sold by Ready Made RC
-:RCExplorer:- West: Usually you use it for the reciever on the video link. On the RC link you use it on the transmitter
-:RCExplorer:- Tomeparker: I use the one from readymaderc works really well
-:RCExplorer:- bbmagic: nice eye sight πŸ˜‰
-:tomeparker:- Thanks!
-:jogranv:- what is the best plane for my first fpv trip? (scratchbuilt)
-:luilly3d:- thanks David! , Im following your Y6 build, I’m in to quads right now but thinking abourt cutting one leg and make it a tri or may be a Y6 lol !
-:tomeparker:- I’m planning on a late entry for the logo competition, any advice based on entries to far?
-:anas:- @david: IΒ΄ll try to explain my Tri problem: I get random twitches in air with my Tricopter. Mostly it suddenly banks to the left. Then it often repeats that until crash! Then my receiver often fails to respond. I canΒ΄t disarm or arm the board. I even have to rebind the receiver. before that mostly the receiver has full control and the LED of the RX is on but the board wonΒ΄t arm. I am confused…
-:anas:- wow I wrote a lot…
-:West:- got u there now. what TX antenna is used with the bowtie on the ground for video?
-:Exyator1:- @RCExplorer how do you remove copper from 1.5mm PCB that has some tracks on it already?
-:arch001:- Gotta go! Keep up the great work David. Cheers everybody!
-:Vindfrisk:- @RCExplorer futaba 6ex or hitech optic 6 sport
-:RCExplorer:- luilly3d: Cool πŸ™‚ Do you have any pics or videos of/from you quad?
-:Trinom:- anas, and what about EPAs? don’t you have problems with them?
-:anas:- no note really trinom
-:RCExplorer:- tomeparker: Sorry no advice πŸ™‚ Just draw soemthing you feel is fitting for the page πŸ˜‰
-:jojo:- hay, did someone ever tried to build a realy smal fpv set (cam+transmitter) about 10 gramms? i will build realy small quad soon and i am searching for ideas
-:tomeparker:- πŸ˜€ was worth a try
-:RCExplorer:- Anas: Sounds like the reciever is making troubble, have you tried it separate? Maybe do a range check?
-:Bruno:- Ja agora estΓ‘ aqui algum Portuga???
-:anas:- Yeah I did try several ones. I use a DX6i with several orange rxΒ΄s and original spektrum rxΒ΄s
-:te:- Anybody, on a high wing glider, how much right and down thrust do you recommend? I am having a slight problem with that
-:anas:- is there any other possible thing that could be wrong?!
-:Exyator1:- @RCExplorer how do you remove copper from 1.5mm PCB that has some tracks on it already?
-:RCExplorer:- Exyator1: follow this guide: https://rcexplorer.se/page14/page15/page15.html
-:Exyator1:- Thanks alot!
-:TriCopFlyer2:- .
-:RCExplorer:- Vindfrisk: I would go with the Hitec πŸ™‚
-:tomeparker:- I brought a Hitec Aurora 9, can’t fault it
-:RCExplorer:- jojo: I’ve tried one but the field of view is terrible on small cameras
-:avzaid:- @RCExplorer: what about a 2.4G Rx with satellite, will this be better ? like this one for example http://www.wiredrc.com.au/shop/Receivers/JR-RD721-2-4GHz-7-Ch-DSM2-Rx/prod_649.html
-:tomeparker:- Come to think of it, anyone in the uk want to buy a DX7 + RX?
-:bbmagic:- @anas it sounds like the problem is upstream of the recv since they all have the same problem….. could the power be intermittant?
-:luilly3d:- yes i have some on my FB, i just need to pass you the url of the album
-:RCExplorer:- Anas: hmmm have you messured the 5V voltage on the board to make sure it’s not low?
-:jojo:- i found a lense wich gives jo 120 to 160 degrees on those nano cams
-:jojo:- should work πŸ˜€
-:Guest:- David, can you open the chat next time at least one hour earlier
-:Trinom:- Exyator1, I prefer Fe2O3 than acid. It’s slower, but it’s better for beginers
-:jrooth:- thanks for the good advise guys.. I’m off…
-:anas:- @ David where to I mesuere the voltage? between the red and black one from the ESC ?!
-:bbmagic:- bye
-:jrooth:- RCExplorer: and remember that the Duo Discus ride in Uppsala is still valid πŸ™‚
-:anas:- bye and thanks bbmagic
-:West:- David i got u there now. what TX antenna is used with the bowtie on the ground for video?
-:TriCopFlyer2:- see ya bbmagic
-:RCExplorer:- avazaid: Is your transmitter updated to DSMX? That makes a huge differance!
-:anas:- really but the receivers are just DSM2
-:RCExplorer:- luilly3d: send the link πŸ™‚
-:luilly3d:- Im having problems with my second quad, sin the equipment was mounted on the first one and it crashed in to a wall lol I cant make it to take off, one motor shaft seems to be bend and the motor is not accelerating equally with the others , the board over reacts and the quad flips right away
-:RCExplorer:- anas: you need a DSMX compatable reciever as well
-:avzaid:- my transmitter is x9303, it already support DSM2
-:anas:- yeah but dsmx radios do “talk” to DSM2 receivers. but I get what you mean πŸ™‚
-:RCExplorer:- anas: Yes red and black on the servo wire from the ESC
-:anas:- okay thanks IΒ΄ll try now
-:RCExplorer:- jrooth: I would love to fly the Duo Discus! Maybe this spring? When the weather is a bit better?
-:RCExplorer:- luilly3d: Does the motor run smooth? Sounds like you need a new one πŸ˜€
-:bbmagic:- David – I see you have changed CP antennas on your P51 video. Is there a reason? Is OMM antennas working better for you?
-:Trinom:- are you talking about that twincopter that Josh crashed to atoms? πŸ˜€
-:Fabianurban:- hi
-:Guest:- i have to leave now, good bye
-:RCExplorer:- bbmagic: Cool that you noticed that πŸ™‚ Yeah it’s working excellent. Like it a lot better πŸ˜‰
-:anas:- okay I got 5.03 volts so that should be good
-:Alec:- Whats difference in those antennas?
-:RCExplorer:- Yeah, that should be good.
-:Exyator1:- Is hydrochloric acid alone good enough for etching copper from PCB’s?
-:bbmagic:- Well then I guess I will head that way. I always am up for a short cut!
-:anas:- I think IΒ΄ll just try a reflash of the board to 1,6 so I use the same as you do and check my cables.
-:anas:- thanks for the help! thanks a lo
-:Trinom:- Exy… it’s super fast, but you have to be very careful
-:anas:- t
-:RCExplorer:- Anas: no problem, let me know if you have any more troubble after that
-:Exyator1:- @Trinom Thx i’ll try!
-:luilly3d:- believe me, the bearings sounds like popcorn! , I ordered new shorter shafts and new bearings sets from a new china hobby store and the package is delayed in US costums since aparently the hobby store do not have permission to import to US.. what an emossion for me… look my happy face -_-
-:West:- Sorry to repeat again…David i got u there now. what TX antenna is used with the bowtie on the ground for video?
-:anas:- okay thanks again! keep up the great work and also you can expect a late entry into the competition from me as well πŸ˜€
-:luilly3d:- here is the link of some of my pics https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.478232632889.259729.555607889&type=1&l=caee2fe2f2
-:Exyator1:- bye
-:RCExplorer:- luilly3d: Sounds like you’re have a great day πŸ˜€
-:Fabianurban:- I have a Problem with my video-googles. They alwasy switch to bluescreen, when they get no Signal ! is there any possibility to make them always show even bad signal ?
-:RCExplorer:- Bye Exyatro!
-:Alec:- I second Fab’s question
-:avzaid:- my transmitter is x9303, it is written on it DSM2, do you think it support DSMX ?
-:RCExplorer:- West: I would recommend the inverted-V, easy to make and works well
-:West:- David to clear…what two antennae do I use with 2.4ghv for video longe range?
-:tomeparker:- Bye guys, time to design a logo
-:RCExplorer:- Bye Tomeparker! Good luck πŸ™‚
-:tomeparker:- Thanks for doing a chat David, keep the content coming!
-:RCExplorer:- Fabianurban: Which goggles?
-:Alec:- O, do you have Adobe Illistrator David? I sent you a .ai file for the logo contest.
-:luilly3d:- Jaja Im thinking to buy some DT700, does this motors run smooth? I have 4 RC timer 2830 and the motors is ggreat! but the bearings kill them.. πŸ™
-:West:- Inverted v…do u have a build thread? and this is used with the RX bow tie?
-:bbmagic:- I guess I need to go. I am setting up my FPV gear today and its not getting done sitting here. Thanks for the chat David!
-:RCExplorer:- West: Bowtie and an inverted-V is as easy as it gets and has excellent performance. However a cloverleaf and a helical performs better
-:TriCopFlyer2:- later bb
-:RCExplorer:- Alec: Yes I do, that’s fine πŸ™‚
-:Alec:- thanx
-:Trinom:- David, did you see my modified 2.5 yaw mechanism? It allows me to use a screw between yaw mechanism and servo. The big screw can be loosen and thin screwdriver can loose or tighten the hidden servo screw πŸ™‚
-:RCExplorer:- Nice looking quad luilly3d πŸ˜€
-:RCExplorer:- West: Sorry no build log yet. Search for IBcrazy inverted-v and youll find it
-:RCExplorer:- bbmagic, see you my friend πŸ™‚
-:luilly3d:- the last one is the one Im having trouble with to make it take off due to the motor issue, but the first one flew awsome! actually i crashed in to a wall since i was flying it at night with no light and I lost orientation.. :/
-:RCExplorer:- Trinom: Pictures!?
-:Trinom:- https://picasaweb.google.com/116504312330534460153/TricopterFotkyStavby
-:Alec:- How hard is it to achieve a 2km video link under $250?
-:Alec:- By 250 I meant 150
-:RCExplorer:- luilly3d: Are you from Sweden btw? The DT700’s are nice and cheap
-:luilly3d:- No David, Im from Puerto Rico, small caribbean island at the other side jeje πŸ˜‰
-:RCExplorer:- Nice one Trinom πŸ™‚
-:avzaid:- @RCExplorer: my transmitter is x9303, it is written on it DSM2, do you think it support DSMX ?
-:Trinom:- thanks, David
-:West:- Thanks David …I love what u r doin here THANKS BRA!
-:West:- WEST out…
-:RCExplorer:- Alec, 150 could be hard. I would recommend a 300mW 1.3Ghz transmitter and building the antennas your self that should be possible
-:RCExplorer:- See you west!
-:West:- CHEERS
-:Alec:- O cool, I was looking at 800mw, but was afraid that would swamp the rc link
-:RCExplorer:- luilly3d: Ahh too bad πŸ˜€ If I ever go to pourto rico I’ll swing by you’re place πŸ˜‰
-:epet:- where do I get a kk board for tri?
-:RCExplorer:- Alec: Yeah 800 is really overkill for most. 300 is plenty
-:anas:- hobbyking
-:Trinom:- it’s much cheaper, than original KK πŸ˜€
-:epet:- I see for quad but not tri.
-:Trinom:- the same
-:Trinom:- the difference is in firmware, not hardware
-:luilly3d:- Haha thanks David! shure sounds cool!
-:anas:- @epet: exactly with the USB ASP tool you can reflash the board to be able to control a Tricopter
-:epet:- so need to reprogram it
-:anas:- or Hexacopter
-:Trinom:- or milion another copters πŸ˜€
-:RCExplorer:- Thanks for helping out guys πŸ™‚
-:epet:- oh ok thanks
-:michael:- rcexplorer–why is 800 over kill? what range will a basic hobbyking 300 give me?
-:kolokotronis:- Hello dave, i want to build something like your mini quad copter but in tricopter because i love how it looks (and i can fit a heli canopy). I’d like to ask, whats the smallest you can go with tricopters???
-:anas:- yes. if you follow Davids programm on this page youΒ΄ll be able to do it: go onto: educational and then Reflashing HK KK board. it is the same for the V1 and the V2 board
-:avzaid:- where can I buy a good 1.3G Video Tx/Rx 300mW ?
-:epet:- Thaks anas for the info.=)
-:anas:- @kolokotronis: getting the hardware is reasonably easy as there are a lot of small motors out there but the only problem is that youΒ΄ll have to do a Yaw mechanism which is VERY small and VERY light!
-:RCExplorer:- kolokotronis: As small as you wish πŸ™‚ You could build a tri with the same stuff as the miniquad. Just don’t fly it in any wind and you’ll be fine πŸ˜€
-:luilly3d:- David how much flying time you get on the tri-copter with the 3S 2200 lipo? Im seriously thinking to try it, im flying with 4S and that battery weights 1/2 kg
-:anas:- no problem epet
-:RCExplorer:- aczaid: readymaderc.com
-:Trinom:- here is the USB programmer compatible and tested with KK board – http://www.ebay.com/itm/USB-ISP-Programmer-ATMEL-AVR-51-ATMega-ATTiny-/200460739146?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2eac64224a
-:epet:- I still need the flash progamer though
-:kolokotronis:- Thank you, about the yaw mechanism im thinking to put the servo on the center of the copter and have the whole carbon rod twisting
-:TriCopFlyer2:- later guys…keepem flying – TriCopFlyer Out
-:kolokotronis:- I have recently heard about tri-V tail copters
-:RCExplorer:- michael: 800mW has a tendency to interfear a lot fit other electronics. 800mW would probably get you 30km or so with the right antennas which is a bit overkill in my opionion
-:anas:- okay as long as it is stable enough
-:kolokotronis:- they look better and are servo less
-:epet:- thanks for the info
-:avzaid:- and what range do I get with that system using shipped antennas ?
-:RCExplorer:- luilly3d around 10 minutes hard flying πŸ™‚
-:Alec:- O wow, I see poeple flying 800mw with max range of .75 km
-:Alec:- Ill be making a clover leaf, 900mw
-:michael:- I use 2.4 for flying. should i cancel my order and switch to a 300? do you even recommend hobbyking’s 1/3 sony and transmitter. I chose 900 for the video.
-:anas:- @alec: that is pretty unlucky. quit often the range is not only dependent on the hardware you use but on the surrounding as well
-:RCExplorer:- avzaid: It’s a gamle every time, as bad as 200 meters I’ve head
-:luilly3d:- sounds good to me if 10 min of hard flying are like 15 of smooth flying πŸ™‚
-:Alec:- How is a semi-populated neighborhood area with power and phone lines all buried for a signal?
-:anas:- luilly3d: too bad I donΒ΄t have a feeling for time and always keep gettin my lipo down to 3,0 volts per cell πŸ™
-:RCExplorer:- Alec: try it, If it works go with it πŸ™‚
-:luilly3d:- If I have a video transmitter rated at 12V can I connect it directly to my 11.1V lipo?
-:Alec:- Well, thanx, u guys answered some hard questions for me πŸ˜€ Ill stay and lurk for a while to learn more.
-:anas:- @luilly3d: that should be possible
-:RCExplorer:- luilly3d: what flighttime to you get on the 4s 500gram battery?
-:avzaid:- well, I already have 800mW, I’ll put a low pass filter on it, as for the RC, I’ll try the JR 7ch with satelite first if I don’t see any improvement then I’ll switch to 433MHz
-:RCExplorer:- luilly3d: Yes that’s perfectly fine πŸ™‚
-:RCExplorer:- avzaid: Good luck my friend
-:luilly3d:- David Im getting about 20min of smooth flying, just hovering around the pack is 4000mA
-:avzaid:- thank you very much Dave
-:RCExplorer:- luilly3d: Nice πŸ™‚
-:RCExplorer:- Ok guys, It’s time for me to make like a tree and leave
-:michael:- Thank you
-:RCExplorer:- You have a terrific evening πŸ™‚
-:anas:- okay David thanks for the nice chat!
-:Trinom:- see you πŸ™‚
-:avzaid:- and I have to say, you are a great guy and your website is really a very good work for everyone who like RC, thanks very much for all your hard work
-:luilly3d:- jeje nice to chat with you David !
-:RCExplorer:- The chat will remain open if you guys wish to stay and talk for a while
-:anas:- yes I agree with avzaid
-:RCExplorer:- Thanks avzaid πŸ™‚
-:RCExplorer:- Cheers, and good night
-:Trinom:- good night
-:avzaid:- Good Night
-:anas:- thank YOU and have a good night too
-:Alec:- Night
-:luilly3d:- good night
-:jogranv:- do the chat close now?
-:michael:- What C rating do I need on my 3 cell for gentle tri flying with 25A escs
-:anas:- now it remains open
-:anas:- it depends

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