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Camileo P10 HD camera for FPV

In this guide I will show you step by step how to disassemble the Toshiba Camileo P10 and removing unnecessary weight. Take a guess on how much weight you think I can save. The answer can be found at the end of the guide.


weight without an SD-card is 176 grams with battery and 148 grams without


Start by removing the screw that is located inside the tripod connector


Remove the sticker on the front and then remove the screws


Remove the sticker above the display and remove the screws


Flip it over and remove the sticker on the other side and remove the screws


Now you can remove the top


Unscrew this screw


The lens cover is held in place by a quite strong double sided tape, remove it and remove the 4 screws


Underneath this is two more screw, remove them too


You can now remove the right side (the one without the display)


Carefully flip up the side with the display and unscrew the two screws


Now unscrew the two screws holding the flat cable in place


Unplug the cable and remove the display


Remove the back and unscrew the two screws that holds the push button PCB.


You should now have the PCB free from it’s plastic prison


The other side of the PCB, I will now remove some unnecessary components


Some easy bits to remove. The battery connector, flash, flash capacitor and speaker.


All the pieces that was removed


Done

Weight after removing the unnecessary stuff: 27 grams without SD-card
Thats less than the battery weights!
That is a weight saving of 149 grams.
The camera now weights 15% from the original, that’s 85% of the camera in the bin. Naturally I will add heat-shrink and cables that will add some weight. I will also try to make the camera sensor PCB work on a ribbon cable so I can make it pan/tilt.

Update:
I have to admit defeat. I can’t get the camera to work with a remote camera head. I’ve been struggling with it for over 10 hours without any successes.

This is how it looked after I mounted the ribbon cables. I measured all the connections, but I got no picture. So I started trowing everything I could at it…

The first thing I tried was to wrap the cable in a copper foil that then connected to ground. – No picture.

I then tried shortening the ribbon cable to half the length, still wrapped in the grounded copper foil. – No picture.

Tried shortening it to 1/4 of the original length. – Picture! But an unusable one. A lot of static the picture kept cutting out. The cable was now so short that it was unpractical. It was stiff and couldn’t be used for pan/tilt.

So I decided to remove the ribbon cable and solder individual cables by hand. I started with 15 cm cables. A lot of fiddling and time later – Picture! But an unusable one once again, lots of static and cutting out.

I desoldered the cables and shortened them to the shortest distance I thought it would be possible to have a working pan/tilt, which was about 8 cm. – I got picture but it still kept cutting out occasionally. Time to give up…

I decided to put the original connectors back on. I though that a working but bulky HD camera is better than a non working one.

10 hours, 360 solder points and 180 measurements later I was back where I started.

This camera seems to be very sensitive to impedance differences. Oh well, I’ll have to do with a bulky HD camera for now.

Update 2:
After the failure with the ribbon-cable I decided to make a test flight with the camera in a fixed possission on the Twin Star II.

Shortly after takeoff I found that the stock lens is horrible to fly with! Way to much focal length, so I decided to modify it a little…


I now use a f3.6 lens that was stock on the KX171 camera. Much better! See for your self:


I used the front from the other camera that I modified and the IR filter from the KX171 camera. This is necessary due to the fact that the IR filter was built in on the stock lens and was impossible to remove without breaking.


A little glue is all it takes.

Update 3:
I decided to have myself just one more try on making the HD camera work with a remote sensor PCB.

At least it looked nice.

I was super careful with every solder point and confirmed that every point was good in a microscope. I also measured all the connections with a multimeter. I pair twinned all the cables and then twisted ground wires around every pair. I then added epoxy to make sure that no cable or solder joint would be stressed or damaged while testing the camera out.

I hooked up the display and plugged in the USB power… First a flicker on the display… Then a for a split second a black display… But then! I can see my self! I’ve got picture!
But? There is something wrong? The picture isn’t moving?
I stretched out my hand and grabbed the camera lens and swiveled it around a bit, but the picture remained the same. No matter what I did, the picture wouldn’t change. So I tried rebooting the camera. The display flickered on and only displayed a black picture with the OSD information on it this time. I tried again, and again, and again. I tried pushing buttons, moving the camera head around, letting the power be unplugged for minutes, letting the power be plugged in for minutes before powering it up. No matter what I tried I could not get it to work. I couldn’t even get a frozen picture like the first time I booted it up. After an hour, with no progress, I stopped trying.
I had one more thing to try before I gave up. I powered up my soldering iron, plugged in my heat gun and starting cutting up some heat shrink. I decided to shorten every single wire by about half or 4 cm.

A couple of hours work later I was done. Ready for another try. I plugged in the display once more and powered it up… Black… only a black screen with the OSD numbers… I tried again. Same results. I tried pushing buttons, plugging stuff in an out but I knew, deep inside that I was defeated, once again by my archenemy, the Camlileo P10…

Update 4:
I managed to get the camera back together and working as normal again. I have now given up on trying to make it work with a remote sensor head. So instead I made a simple pan/tilt system!

The test flight went great! The sun had just broken over the clouds and there was a mist over the town. The flight was so beautiful;

The Pan/Tilt setup seams to wok OK, there are some issues with vibrations from the servos and motors which ruined the video somewhat. But to be honest, it worked better than I thought it would do.

I’m planning on making some improvements to the pan/tilt system to get it to be a little more aerodynamic as well as making the servo movements a little smoother.

HD Pan/Tilt testing and a beautiful video

Something very rare happened this weekend, it didn’t rain, or snow, or blow hurricane winds. It was actually good enough weather to go out and fly. So I grabbed my TwinStar with the pan/tilt HD camera setup that I have jet to try out, and ran out to the car and drove to the field before the weather-gods had time to change their minds.

The flight went great! The sun had just broken over the clouds and there was a mist over the town. The flight was so beautiful;

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A BAitT Wing is born

Since the weather has turned fowl here in Sweden and it’s getting dark well before I get home, I decided it was time to dust of the old hotwire cutter.

This time I will be making a 120cm wingspan Zagi10 flying wing. It will simply be a 50% scaled up version of the old AitT wing.

I will call it the Big Always in the Trunk wing or BAitT for short.

Click here to continue to read about the BAitT project

New video transmitter

ay! Today I got a new 1.3GHz 300mW transmitter and a 1.3GHz receiver!

I placed an order after the flight with the HD camera that didn’t turn out that well.
I plan on making a guide on how to mount a more effective, lighter and more crash resistant antenna on this transmitter. I will also remove the connector and replace it whit directly soldered cables. That way I don’t need to worry about the connector suddenly giving up during flight.
Now all I need is some good weather this weekend and I should be able to test it out properly

One more try with the HD cam

I decided to have myself just one more try on making the HD camera work with a remote sensor PCB.

At least it looked nice.

I was super careful with every solder point and confirmed that every point was good in a microscope. I also measured all the connections with a multimeter. I pair twinned all the cables and then twisted ground wires around every pair. I then added epoxy to make sure that no cable or solder joint would be stressed or damaged while testing the camera out.

I hooked up the display and plugged in the USB power… First a flicker on the display… Then a for a split second a black display… But then! I can see my self! I’ve got picture!
But? There is something wrong? The picture isn’t moving?
I stretched out my hand and grabbed the camera lens and swiveled it around a bit, but the picture remained the same. No matter what I did, the picture wouldn’t change. So I tried rebooting the camera. The display flickered on and only displayed a black picture with the OSD information on it this time. I tried again, and again, and again. I tried pushing buttons, moving the camera head around, letting the power be unplugged for minutes, letting the power be plugged in for minutes before powering it up. No matter what I tried I could not get it to work. I couldn’t even get a frozen picture like the first time I booted it up. After an hour, with no progress, I stopped trying.
I had one more thing to try before I gave up. I powered up my soldering iron, plugged in my heat gun and starting cutting up some heat shrink. I decided to shorten every single wire by about half or 4 cm.

A couple of hours work later I was done. Ready for another try. I plugged in the display once more and powered it up… Black… only a black screen with the OSD numbers… I tried again. Same results. I tried pushing buttons, plugging stuff in an out but I knew, deep inside that I was defeated, once again by my archenemy, the Camlileo P10…

I’m mentioned on the All things that fly podcast again!

In episode #118 of ATTF Diggs and Jamie talks about my latest FPV video.
Jamie calls it — “The coolest FPV video I’ve ever seen before”, he particularly liked the part in the ending when I fly by the tractor.

It’s funny to hear them trying to pronounce “Dadde”.

They start to talk about it at 19:50 into the show.

You can download the episode here: ATTF #118.MP3

A big thank you to all the guys at ATTF!

I was also mentioned on the show a while back

Single battery FPV testing

In an attempt to reduce the all up weight on my FPV FunJet, I decided to try and power the FPV gear from the main battery, and thus being able to remove the 52 grams heavy 3s500 battery that I usually power it with.
This is my first attempt, a 1mH 1A inductor in series and a 470uF capacitor in parallel on the output side.
This worked OK, but there was some small lines still appearing during high current draw. ( You can see them in the beginning of this video)
After that flight I added a few extra small capacitors which got rid of the lines completely. But another problem came to light, I got less range. This is because the voltage of the main battery is often down at 10 Volts or so and the transmitter is made for 12V. That voltage difference is enough to make the transmitter loose output power and reduce the range. I still got good range, but not as good as I get from using a separate LiPo.

So I decided to scrap my homebuilt filter and order myself an AnyVolt micro, which is a step up/step down converter that can handle both voltages above, the same, and lower than the output, which is necessary for this kind of application.

It just arrived and I hope to be able to start testing it soon. Stay tuned!